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And even a dropping of his previous -- >> does he have to? he has not for two years? when does that start? >> jake, tell me about the hill today, i get a sense that in a weird way democrats feel great about yesterday and i have quite a few republicans that feel better than we thought they would feel today. >> i think testimonies feel good about last night. they feel frankly put like donald trump will not win wisconsin again, not win michigan again, and they believe that last night showed that. i...