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charles. thats right. listening to the president speaking just now, youd think that we got all good news in the jobs report today. in fact, i was reading his statement from earlier on the jobs data. the first line, this is bidenomics in action. but charles, you ask the average american how they feel with what theyre bringing home, when they have to pay for groceries. seems to be a disconnect versus the rosy picture coming out of pennsylvania avenue. i want to dig into the numbers that ...

Heading into the next debate. >> natasha, in that first democratic debate a couple months ago, you saw biden. obviously he had that encounter on stage with kamala harris. it helped her momentarily, it certainly seemed to hurt him back then as well. i think now folks are looking at it looks like elizabeth warren is going to be on the same stage with biden in the next debate in september and i think wondering if something similar might happen then. >> well, its certainly the battle everyones been ...

To the warren point, as natasha points out, she started out und und the campaign is shes reminding democrats of why they liked her to begin with. so its really created this situation where we essentially have a two to three person race heading into the next debate. >> natasha, in that first democratic debate a couple months ago, you saw biden obviously he had that encounter on stage with kamala harris. it helped her momentarily, certainly seemed to hurt him back then as well. i think now folks a...

And i think wondering if something similar might happen then. >> well, its certainly the battle everyones been waiting for, people have said that biden skated by being able to avoid warren the first two debates. on the other hand, warren has dominated because shes sort of central, at least in the first debate. you know, with bernie sanders in the second debate, the two of them joined up. so it will be interesting to see how both of them respond, how both of them think on their feet. but warren i...