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>> tucker: are you allowed to say -- should you be allowed to say, and get away with it, that we are going to give preferencep to people based -- children based purely on their skin color and discriminate others purely based on their skin color? isnt that what we didnt like about the jim crow south, that attitude? >> we developed an orwellian situation where we tried to escape this sort of bias in favor of one race versus another. now its being done in the name of racial equity. so inequality eq...

We can be directors. to have the women stand up and they explained each role that women played behind the cameras. most americans are not aware of that. >> laura: cathy, do you think most americans care about the gender or the race of the cinematographer? dont they care about whoever is great at it? arent we supposed to not care about gender? i am confused. i thought we were supposed to get away from gender and race. everyone is the same and now everybody is not the same. we have to be bean coun...

We are intelligent women. we can be directors. to have the women stand up and they explained each role that women played behind the cameras. most americans are not aware of that. >> laura: cathy, do you think most americans care about the gender or the race of the cinematographer? dont they care about whoever is great at it? arent we supposed to not care about gender? i am confused. i thought we were supposed to get away from gender and race. everyone is the same and now everybody is not the sam...