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I think it strengthened those characters dramatically the last couple seasons. and the arc with daenerys and cersei and brienne also this season, a lot of people were saying oh boy, there they go again. >> yeah, i think that was it. i think the demise of daenerys was the thing that really upset people the most. and therapists are offering their services to "game of thrones" fans who need help getting over the show coming to an end but also the way it ended. how often does that happen with long-r...

Season, a lot of people were saying oh, boy, there they go again. >> that was it. i think the demise of daenerys was the thing that upset people the most. and therapists are offering their services to "game of thrones" fans who need help getting over the show coming to an end but also the way it ended. how often does that happen with long-running shows like this? and what was it about this show that people got so invested in the characters and the storyline? >> well, i think the show -- first of...