he says one thing in a televised extravaganza. then he meets with the nra, he pulls back on something else. it s the battle of ideas. what about stuff he believes? gun issues are not new. doesn t he have his own idea? something deeply seeded in him? true. i remember when we were trying to recruit for governor of new york state, one of the issues was the s.a.f.e. act. the president would sit down and listen. that big square table at trump tower. and he would listen to one side and then the other. it was an issue that was really important to him. i haven t seen it in the white house. i know it has to be intense there as well.
hallie jackson is at the white house. nice to see you. what s going on down at the white house? reporter: it s the beating heart at the moment, at least. the health care discussion is happening a few minutes ago over in the east room where we walked in. we saw the senators seated arrange around a big square table. we saw a couple minutes ago two of those leaders walk out. mitch mcconnell and senator thune as well. talking about how they believe they could get there. i asked senator mcconnell whether he believes the longer it takes, the harder it will be to pass. he seems optimistic baa broached the possibility of having to work with democrats. sitting down with senator schumer. he pointed out that republicans might not be getting everything they would like to be getting. there s some action high pressuring today. let me talk about what s happening later on tonight which is the vice president having dinner with four conservative