john: america reports, waiting for a federal judge s ruling on the fate of title 42. decision could come down any minute as border states brace for a bigger crisis if the trump era immigration order is allowed to expire on monday. i m john roberts. gillian: great to be with you, john. gillian turner in for sandra smith. border areas are seeing a big surge in activity in anticipation of the title 42 decision in the del rio sector in texas, 1800 migrants in 24 hours. a large number of those people were single adults. that s the migrant demographic that is likelyest to be expelled under title 42. john: texas governor abbott says it will only get worse. it would surpass the population of houston if title 42 is not renewed. 18,000 pouring into border states every day. bill joins us from the border in eagle pass, texas. what are you seeing there? john, good afternoon to you. del rio sector getting hammered with activity, nearly 2,000 illegal crossings in just 24 hours, an
it s not your job to predict the future, what s your best guess? do you think title 42 is going to become ineffective on monday? right, so, good afternoon, gillian, thanks for having me on. we are waiting to see what s going to happen to title 42, lifted or extended, but regardless of the fact we are seeing record numbers every month, as you saw earlier with bill reporting on the ground there, we are seeing immigrants coming across along the southern border by the hundreds throughout the border. and with that, it causes a chain reaction. now you have to deal with human smuggling, high speed chases, the got-away, single adults trying to avoid apprehension by traversing through areas of vast terrain or private ranches. so we have to deal with all the elements, different events on a consistent basis all because of the fact anticipation of lifting of title 42.
off the planes, they say good luck getting any information. but to go back to the a.g.s making that point, lack of transparency, getting information from this admin is hard. yeah, absolutely. and when you talk about all the videos we have been showing of all the mass i.c.e. releases, keep in mind i.c.e. still has not produced its fiscal year 2021 annual report. that fiscal year ended september 30th. almost four months ago. and it s the first time in a decade that annual report has not been ready by the end of the calendar year, and makes you wonder what s going to be in the report now that we are finding out that i.c.e. has just been mass releasing migrants apparently all over the place. we have shown it in brownsville and san antonio, two spots, hundreds of people between both locations in a matter of two days. you have to wonder what s going to be in that report, if and when it is finally released. sandra: bill reporting there from the border for us, as you have been bringing us
that a posture towards not supporting police. this is about whether or not you find police and whether you have bill reporting that lets criminals out of jail, a $900 limit on theft before you think about prosecuting somebody or arresting them it s about seeing things happen day in and day out knowing a part of the reason that that is happening police officers have to think twice about risking their lives to do their job i don t have the quality from the police or what you call it. if all you have left is to argue a single semantic, you have lost and democrats have lost on this issue and unfortunately that means americans have lost because democrats are in charge of the white house right now. leo: it s so obvious they ve never supported the police. in my opinion joe manchin kyrsten sinema has saved the democratic party in the sense of not going on with the pack better and that became a dead
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