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Xl and dakota pipeline saying it must be built with american steel. thats not the case. the majority of pipes were already purchased. it had nothing to do with using american steel. paris agreement, people say its not binding, it absolutely is. that is untrue. he also said he insisted before going to the middle east an agreement had to be put in place that billions of dollars would be spent by those countries on american-made good. also not true, but it doesnt stick. people hear that and theyre ...

President trump believing global warming is a hoax? >> i have not talked to the president directly about it. >> you never discussed this with him? you are supporting him and it never came up? you dont care what he thinks? >> no, frankly when it comes to global warming what we care about is having clean water and clean air. we need jobs in the economy. we need economic growth. this was such an awful deal with the hard pledge to reduce our co2 emissions 26% to 28%. no equal pledge from china, indi...

Environmental progress. it sounds like this morning that other countries, germany and france, say they have no interest in renegotiating. >> i think everyone is scratching their heads about the idea of renegotiating the deal. you just made the point it is not legally binding. president trump has already been seeking to undermine some of the initiatives that president obama had put in place to achieve better clean energy objectives. the europeans have come out strongly and said forget about it. t...

Jobs. this they had to hold to their cut in emissions -- >> they didnt have to. its non-binding. he could have rolled it back. >> no, but we probably would have. i think the other fear, katy, is -- >> but he could have just not committed to the numbers that obama committed to. he didnt have to actually exit the deal. my question is, how does this affect american jobs? >> if youre going to get out, get out now before it becomes -- i think a big fear here, katy, is it will become binding. get out ...

The supreme court. how big a deal is it? how big of a win is it for the president if the ban is upheld by the supreme court? >> i think it would be enormous victory for the president. he fought hard through appeals and this is a signature issue. one of the first policy pronouncements out of the gate that wasnt just executive order that would go nowhere and not legally binding. he ran on this and he struggled since with this legal team to say this is not something that just favors muslims and not...

Left is but there is a deep irony. it is, as you have described, a nonbinding, unenforceable, voluntary, nonratified agreements. how is it on the one hand that you have the left crying about this meaning doom for the planet and on the other hand its not having any enforcement mechanisms. >> bret: when talking about this in the framework of how president obama signed onto it and how he put into it, it still wasnt a treaty. it never went to the u.s. senat senate. >> they would have voted it down. ...

Consequences not only for the deal itself but also for the nature, as you alluded to a second ago, between the united states and its allies going forward. there are a number of options available to the american president. he can simply withdraw from the climate change deal, but that would take some time, probably wouldnt come into effect until 2020. he could withdrawal perhaps more radically from the entire framework, the framework that has provided the ability for the world to search for this c...

Me now. >> thank you for being here. >> i appreciate it. >> do you believe in climate change? >> yes, i think we have enough evidence there has been a slight increase in temperatures. we have the weather wing for the air force in the omaha area that does the weather for the air force and army and ive gone through the data with them and there has been a slight increase in temperatures, the debatable part, how much is manmade versus secular in nature and how much can we impact it in changes. those...

We want. you obviously have some understanding of it. i have some understanding of it. a lot of our viewers have their understanding of whether climate change is real, whether it exists. the scientific information is that it does and human activity contributes to it. theres people that im talking to right now that will disagree with that. obviously that factors into how you view the idea of how you pull out of this agreement. to be fair, the agreement was a very loose agreement. it was the most ...

What it is? >> well, katy, thanks very much. its a pleasure to be here. look, this is an excellent deal for the world and an excellent deal for the united states. we got pretty much exactly what we wanted in this deal. its ambitious, its built on a bottom-up structure so every country gets to design their own program. its nationally determined. we broke through the firewall that had existed essentially between developed and developing countries for so many years where china and india and others ...