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Transcripts for CNN State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash 20240604 16:54:00

lot of people are doing and to what the governor said the issue of the student loan debt is resonating with hardworking americans, as he said, those that chose not to go to college and start working right away, those who paid off their loans, those who like me, saved up in high school and worked three jobs in college to pay off their loan, they don t want to take on the loan of other people, and this administration picking winners and losers in terms of who they want to dole out money to for the sake of vote, that is not going to sit well with republicans. i think you need to take a step back and look at a more wholesome way going back to what the president said. america is absorbing and this is the ramifications of a 6-3 court that is with student loans and how you feel about that and look at the whole picture. is this a country where we expand the circle of opportunity and do we believe it and diversity in education is an important thing and one of a limited which is what the cou

Transcripts for CNN State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash 20240604 16:04:00

from the majority, but even in the minority dissent written around these cases, we have justices saying that the supreme court is going, themselves, much too far. they are expanding their role into acting as though they are congress itself, and that, i believe, is an expansion of power that we really must be focusing on. the danger of this court and the abuse of power in this court particularly as it particularly as it is related to the entanglements around conflicts of interest, as well. you mentioned the higher education act. president biden came out and proposed a different path forward for student loan forgiveness under certain circumstances. listen to what he said. we will ground this new approach in a different law than my original plan. a so-called higher education act and the new path is legally sound and it will take longer, in my view it s the best path that remains to providing with

Transcripts for CNN State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash 20240604 16:31:00

business can t deny lgbtq people, couples from coming in and trying to, you know, access this business. that s not the case at all, and it s a mischaracterization of it and you know, dana, what concerns me the most is that for decades and decades the democratic party cheered a supreme court that went outside the constitution, made extra constitutional decisions, in my opinion because the decisions went in a philosophical direction that they liked. now when the court makes decisions that they don t like all of a sudden the court is, you know, a not normal court according to president biden. this is results-oriented type of judgment. instead what they should look like is the way they analyze the law and as a lawyer and someone who has watched this for a long time, i think justice gorsuch made a decision that protects all of our first amendment rights and most particularly,

Transcripts for CNN State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash 20240604 16:49:00

you. there was a pause there, a pregnant because, as they say, spoke volumes. it did. you can tell the president was disappointed, and i would say as a progressive, obviously, i m disappointed, but as a political practitioner, i think the president and most of us recognize this is an opportunity to draw a very stark contrast between our party and our values and what we re fighting for and the republican party that was gleeful, for example, and campaigned in 2022 against giving debt relief to our students during a crisis, during the pandemic. obviously, roe v. wade, that is a bright line in the sand, if you will, about what you believe about women s rights and bodily autonomy. i think that pause represented both his frustration, but also a recognition that, again, there say dramatic contrast between our vision and their vision for the future. governor hogan, you were and still are not a fan of donald

Transcripts for CNN State of the Union With Jake Tapper and Dana Bash 20240604 16:06:00

suspending those interest payments. of course, we still believe in pursuing student loan can cancellation and aking faster than the 12-month period whenever possible. what we have been really articulating this plan using the higher education act for some time, myself, as well as other member ps of the congressional hispanic caucus met with the white house recently around this plan as well as many other advocates in the space, as well, and we truly believe that the president congress has given the president this authority and the supreme court is far overreaching their authority and i believe, frankly, that we really need to be having conversations about judicial review as a check on the courts, as well. i want to talk more broadly about the court in a minute and first, i want to ask about another decision this past week, striking down affirmative action programs. the two black justices on the court justice clarence thomas

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