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Accept further nato enlargement. ukraine is never gonna be a nato. people are going to have to respond to that, diplomatically. or, whether this has built up to the inevitable invasion of ukraine, he wants to topple ukraine government and control if years of a neighbor that he sees as a buffer state between russia and nato. that is what we have to wait to find out. the action on the ground, unfortunately, continues to suggest that it is the latter scenario. >> magic eight ball is highly unclear ...

To cultivate and maintain positive relations. you do not want to be used as an instrument against the powerful neighbor. so thats, im not making a pro-vladimir putin argument. what i am saying though is the u.s. national security establishment has sent out a client state an ally out against a very dangerous adversary and thats what were looking at right now. this continued push against putin on his own borders this is in large part what has led us lehr to this moment. >> jesse: saying that as a ...

Wants. he doesnt care about russian people at this point. we need sanctions, military aid and feel confident we will not become or be a buffer state, that is not our identity. >> todd: you say the world should be worried if putin takes ukraine, he wont stop there. explain the threat you folks experience and rest of the wofrld should wake up to? >> everything putin and russia touches becomes corrupt immediately, media, politicians, here and abroad. it is not about military invasion of any country...

Buffer state like ukraine. dont you think so? >> yeah, jesse, you know, as you said there is so much devastation and incredible suffering thats going on in ukraine right now. the world needs to condemn russia for his actions. the thing here is that our leaders really have if u. attitude and they just dont care. we see this fu attitude at home. fu to parents who are concerned about what their kids are being taught in their schools. you know fu to americans who want to make their own decisions as ...

Government, and essentially govern the affairs of a neighbor that he sees as a buffer state, between rough shy and nato. thats where we have to wait and find out. that action on the ground, unfortunately, continues to suggest is the latter scenario. >> magic eight ball is highly unclear on this. ben rhodes, im glad you have with us. former deputy national adviser tomorrow. always >> thanks, alex. good to see you, thanks >> still to come, it is no ben. secret that air travel has gotten, shall we ...

That pro-russian president there that seemed to be the beginning of this era in ukraine, american, russia relations. how did that start things off and where are we now? >> yeah, thats right, jesse. i mean, it was a coup in 2013, 2014, the idea was that the obama administration the american national security establishment and the europeans would be able to poke at putin and get away with it on the cheap, right? so what happened was interest was a coup. the president went into exile. the state dep...

Ive got this from decent sources — people around putin. so i should caveat all of this by saying maybe i dont know what im talking about but i think what weve learned from the fact that he did this and he did this without apparently consulting even many of those closest to him in the kremlin is that his calculus of what he wants to achieve — we thought he wanted to achieve a ukraine as a sort of non—nato member buffer state between russia and nato, he wanted to achieve a seat at the top ta...

Days to discuss the build up of more than 94,000 russian troops near ukraines border. mr putin wants guarantees that nato wont expand any further to the east or deploy weapons systems near russian territory. earlier i spoke to james nixey, director of chatham houses russia, eurasia and europe programmes. i asked him just why russia troops were at the border? they are making a statement. the fact of the matter is that although president biden and putin met in junein president biden and putin met ...

Further to the east or deploy weapons systems near russian territory. earlier i spoke to james nixey, director of chatham houses russia and europe programmes and asked him why russia troops had been deployed there. they are making a statement. they are getting our attention, of course. the fact of the matter is that although president biden and putin met injune in geneva, it was cordial and useful perhaps, it couldnt overcome the fact that the two sides have fundamental differences about how the...

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