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Korea to stop developing nuclear weapons, and china says were not willing to do anything to cut off trade that could cause the kim jong-un regime to collapse. they say it would make things worse. in reality, it also has a lot to do with their geopolitical strategy, as north korea has a buffer state there. but were at a stalemate. it will be interesting to see if either leader can be forced to move in the other direction. >> is it a blue sky day there? >> reporter: you know, yes, it is. its a blu...

The idea of suggesting, i think he was messaging the chinese and russia about serving relationships. im not sure what that means. i think the chinese are going to be hard-pressed to do that. and the greater strategic imperative for the chinese is north korea not implode violently and particularly and they lose their buffer state. i think that is the overriding strategic imperative for the chinese. but the speech was mostly stiff and not much carat. i wish he expanded a bit on his press conferenc...

North korean regime. the chinese are also very good and once attention shifts, to kind of letting this same old same old go back into place in letting their buffer state continue to be a problem for us. they will have to keep their feet to the fire. import lay before the presidents trip. the chinese communist party has their every five-year leadership conference. to regain and re-hold power and to see some of his people in place. we will be watching that very closely. >> brian: you are a war fig...

The chinese are also very good and once attention shifts, to kind of letting this same old same old go back into place and letting their buffer state continue to be a problem for us. the president has to keep their feet to the fire. importantly, before the idpresidents trip, the chinese communist party has their every five year leadership conference, and that is very important for him to regain and re-hold power and to see some of his people and plays. we will be watching that very closely. >> b...

Thaad deployment. but what they dont like more is the thing in north korea. so i think theyll put the screws to the north koreans to a certain extent. but its a strategic imperative. what they dont want to do is lose their buffer state. and the thought of having a reunified peninsula under the control of seoul, and they are on the yellow river by the united states, thats strategic imperative they avoid. >> is that worse than a nuclear north korea? >> well, no, they dont want that. but i say what...

Jong-un, but, quite frankly, when you do that he has no choice but to come back at you. he is considered a god in his country. north korea is nor like a cult than a country. and so he has to respond and so you get anise ka latetory cycle thats not in anybodys interest. i think all the people around the people have told him to cool out. thats sort of not possible for him to do. >> richard the chinese foreign minister said he was listening on to reserve the right of potential conflict. the chinese...

Australia, europe, southeast asia allies and others so that, again, now you have economic pain, have you military and diplomatic threshold being raised against china to where all of those things combined force change in their attitude towards north korea because right now china is content with the status quo. they really dont mind having a buffer state. and the collapse of the north koreaible regime scares them more than all of those other factors. pete: great point. we have to change the calcul...

Which right now precludes them from taking any offense of action. of course the secondary sanctions that we heard so much about targeted chinese and russian banks in bringing an international coalition to also begin putting this quake on the chinese. at the bottom line is we have to raise the pain threshold with the chinese so that they change the status quo of having their buffer state. we have to do it fast because the north korean capability is progressing month by month. >> martha: fits the ...

Koreans, but i dont think the north koreans are simply going to roll over and do anything the chinese ask. furthermore, im not convinced the chinese feel that its in their interests to help us with this north korea problem. i think the chinese like a buffer state there in north korea, and i think theyre satisfied to let it kind of continue to boil along despite perhaps what we heard in the u.n. today. >> speaking of the -- go ahead, colonel. >> don, one thing id add is the timing is terrible on ...

A buffer state. they dont want unification. if theres a collapse, you might be seeing tens of thousands of refugees thrown into china. china wants status quo. they have their own internal problems to worry about. china is not playing ball. >> the defense secretary used some pretty strong language in talking about north korea saying that it would be possible for the united states to annihilate the regime. he said thats not what we want to do but we can do it. the language is getting strong. >> ve...