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Copter -- octocopter. >> people are dreaming about whipping in and out of traffic and going to their destination for about a hundred years, right? >> whats your pitch to people saying, this is not an imaginary project? >> if you squint just right, this looks like a drone. everyone realizes drones are pretty well advanced. if we were doing this 20 years ago and people have not seen a drone fly, this would be more difficult. its a joy stick that says go forward and steer. >> is this to be flown on...