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But because we cant charge a sitting president, we are not even going to decide, we are not going to perform the calculus, the analysis to decide if those acts amount to a crime. so, the report itself doesnt accuse the president of committing a crime. thats thing one. and thing two, remember, attorney general barr and the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein both looked at what mueller came up with and said this doesnt constitute a crime, there should be no crime of obstruction. so, in theory,...

That the best thing that the democrats could be doing and that their presidential candidate should be doing is making the arguments that will really help win the election in 2020. >> but could the argument be made that democrats would look weak if they dont actually pursue impeachment or an impeachment inquiry here? because so many have made the case that these ten instances of obstruction of justice that were laid out in that 400-plus page of the mueller report that those would require at least...

The american people dont support impeachment. youve got an election coming up. win it at the ballot box. >> you know, i thought it was informative. >> what do you think democrats should do now? >> well, you know, i would like to say to try to impeach president trump but its really not -- i think itd be counterproductive at this point because were so close to the 2020 election. >> you know, possible impeachment, some are saying, some are saying move october the real question is we are about 15 mo...

Muellers testimony in front of the house intelligence committee. take a listen to this. >> does the country benefit going through an impeachment if its going to be unsuccessful? and we know in the senate at least it would be unsuccessful. so im not there yet, but im keeping an open mind and i may get there. 2020 is unquestionably the only way he gets removed from office so we can never lose sight of that. >> but not everybody feels this way. attorney elizabeth holzman that voted to impeach presi...

Years? >> yes, there is. >> it would have within a pretty quick timing if the president were to lose the election in 2020 and you had a democratic president, shall we say in, place who would ask the attorney general to reopen this. >> thats true. but thats the only potential obstacle that there is no other. but, again, this is the realm of law school hypotheticals. president trump is not going to be indicted for anything because nobody in the government, nobody in the mueller team thought that a...

Im chris jansen in new york. just try to follow joe joe. >> i mean, can we just do the next hour on -- can we do more stories. and imagine if youre in jo-jos position and you see icons on the soccer field and football field. hes an example, by the way, for all of us. >> yeah. hes doing things that you and i couldnt do. amazing kid. we love you, jo-jo. all right, everybody. it is thursday july 25th. im going to try and follow that story. well see how it goes. and hours after special counsel bob...

Americans pocketbooks and their own personal lives. and so i think at this point that is probably the conversation that really most americans are listening for as they size up these democratic candidates. msnbcs garrett haake actually got reaction from on the ground in michigan. i want to take a listen to what some of the takeaway was from the hearing. >> i think that, you know, special counsel mueller did a great job. i dont think that it should be the end of the conversation, only because he d...