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They have leverage. how theyre using that leverage is unclear. what they really want in a daca deal, what they really would agree to has not been their focus as much as flexing their muscle and the leverage. so now if schumer does do what jack says and he buys himself some time, they have to move, they have to ask for real things. they have to come to the table. do you think theyre ready? >> i absolutely think democrats are ready to come to the table. and i would push back on the notion that the...