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Almost 500,000 today, and how can that with be? the lesson that we have seen in location after location is when we improve access to care whether it is by adding staff or space or productivity or care in the community, more veterans come to v.a. for more care. >> you are saying that you are a vi victim of your own success? >> i would say that the challenge that we have is a structural challenge. >> when our sources tell us that the reality is that the veterans are weight months you would say -- ...