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Prosecuted for any of this? >> i think hes worried about the removal, being removed, i think its a foregone conclusion, personally, from a political point of view that hes going to be impeached. >> you do? >> sure. >> even with the republicans still in control? >> well, the articles of impeachment, the issue of removal, i think you saw this early on with romney, thchis wasnt a surprise to someone like me. i dont think mitt romney decided he wants to be junior senator from utah. but ironically, t...

To do it. and in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made-up story. >> joining me now is sam nunberg, a former trump campaign adviser, who was interviewed by the senate intelligence committee just yesterday. and back with me, our david cay johnston, former prosecutor, barbara mcquade, and msnbc contributor, malcolm nance. i want to start with you, sam. thank you for being here, first of all. i want to get your top o...

Disgraced himself in a fundamental way. this is the chair of the senate judiciary committee, right? >> yes. >> he said, please shut down government to build the wall. this is the same guy who signed on an am kicus brief in 2014 wh president barack obama expanded the daca program to cover parents. >> thats right. >> 3.7 million people. and he said, you cant do this because that is subverting the clear intent of the legislature. he was right about that! regardless of whatever you think about the u...

Accept charity. in a big city like atlanta, i can imagine that this is -- at a certain point, it reaches a crisis. have you been in contact with the white house or has your, to your knowledge, your newly elected governor reached out to the white house saying, this needs to be ending, the shutdown? >> well, i have spoken with senator isaacson. we had a conversation this week, and he is very much aware of the challenges that we may face, leading up to our super bowl in just a few weeks. because ri...

Whats happening from your point of view as the mayor of atlanta? >> thank you for having me, joy. this should make all of us nervous. but thankfully, what we are seeing in atlanta is that as our stakeholders and our partners have these very real concerns, we are seeing engagement in a way that we have not seen before or needed to see before. meaning, on the ground, in atlanta, we are doing things like providing free parking for tsa agents. we are also working with our partners throughout the air...

Before financial insecurity compromises national security. at what point -- i mean, people are expected to come in and do their jobs with the jutmost diligence, as the mayor has just said, but if you are stressed out because you cant put your bills, because you cant put food in the fridge for your kids. i wonder as a national security professional yourself, how do you do your job? >> well, its going to have to come from your heart. and theres one thing that i think, and the mayor expressed it ve...

I just get flustered talking about it because its so crazy. this is a former u.s. attorney, former associate attorney general of the united states misstating facts and misstating law. nowhere in there is a denial of the allegations. frankly, what i find to be the most interesting line in the article, ill read it to you, no evidence has emerged publicly that mr. trump was secretly in contact with or took direction from russian officials. ironically, i think thats the most incriminating line, that...

Institution, democratic norms that are defended and if you have a legislative body that refuses to defend those norms, thats how you walk your way toward autocracy. when you look at the headlines from the washington post, the guardian about donald trump talking about using a national emergency to force money for a border wall, do you start to see this seeds of our democracy dying? >> i dont know about dying but i think we have a lot of evidence that our democracy is pretty darn dysfunctional at ...

Provided support to them. from the fbis point of view, the purpose of this investigation was to understood and thwart russian activity, it was not an investigation of the president. all of a sudden, the president of the united states swoops in, starts putting pressure on the fbi with respect to this investigation in the case of flynn, demanding things of it, and then turns around and fires the head of the agency. all of a sudden, the fbi is saying, whoa, is the presidents activity in trying to s...

And i think people think were being hyperbolic when we say these things, but hes just taking liberty after liberty after liberty and anyone whos traveled knows where that ends. >> and the thing is, matt. and the reason why i really wanted to have you on this panel as well today, is that the way -- and were going to talk to the opposite of how democracy is dilated, the way that autocracies usually work, is that theres a certain amount of pain inflicted on the people whoever the autocrat feels is ...