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And that someone supplied it to him, but he didnt know which volunteer it was, and he didnt know how he got the photo in the first place, and he wasnt able to explain exactly how he selected that one out of all the options given to him. so it certainly wasnt a satisfactory explanation to the judge. >> and it didnt seem like the judge really was buying what stone was selling there. >> no, she really wasnt. she was almost incredulous, actually. she said, you had multiple options for photos you cou...

>> judge gertner, a threat to a federal judge, that would typically be something that a president would condemn. do you have any reason to expect president trump will actually do so in this case, given his past history? >> sigh. i have no idea. one would expect that he would say there is a line that has been crossed today, and that no one should cross that line. frankly, hes come close to that line before, so im not holding my breath. >> i have an idea. absolutely not! he will never say a bad wo...

Lie, its pretty easy. david, what do you think it says, though, about the president that more than just a few people he has chosen to surround himself with are known liars and felons? >> so, look, its obviously not a great situation by any stretch of the imagination. but if you look, if you take these all individually, right, so in manafort, what paul manafort did is petty criminal. its wire fraud, bank fraud, its things that dont relate to the campaign at all. what stone did is lying to congres...

Today, we learned hell be sentenced next month in two cases. he is already in jail in declining health, could end up serving more than 25 years in prison. playtime is over for him. no fun and games either for michael cohen. hell be going before three committees next week with some of his testimony on camera. and on top of all of that, robert muellers report may land literally at any minute. now, whatever you think of all of this, things are getting very serious very quickly. as we said, playtime...

So, hes allowed to talk about politics, hes allowed toe talk about trump. hes just not allowed to talk about his case. i think hell abide by it, but well see. >> right. judge gertner, you heard jeffs account of what happened today in court. im wondering what you make of what stone told the judge, and do you agree with her ruling? she could have gone further, revoked stones bail or order him jailed. >> the only reason she didnt revoke his bail or go further was because of the ambiguity of the ini...

Stand, and it begins innocently enough, he says im so sorry. this was a mistake. you know, it will never happen again. then he is asked a very simple question. well, what happened? how did this instagram post take place? and he couldnt explain it. well, there were these people who had his phone, and someone put a photograph in there, and i dont know where the crosshairs came from, but maybe theyre not really crosshairs, that theyre a celtic image from ancient history. i mean, the whole thing mad...

Others. she said that it was deliberate, that it sent a sinister message, and she was worried about the signal that that might send. and as you pointed out, anderson, she warned roger stone that if he did not abide by this latest gag order, she was willing to throw him in jail. >> what are the specific terms of the gag order? what can, what cant stone talk about? >> remember, the first gag order was pretty lenient. it said roger stone cant talk about this case around the courthouse. she said cle...

Order. obviously the president has been telegraphing nice things toward roger stone. had they been in communication for any amount of time while he has been in office? >> i believe that there may have been some communications, either directly or indirectly at various points earlier on in the term. certainly i think not in recent months has there been anything. we know that the president has a lot of people on his roster of late night phone calls. but i think that he is aware that having interact...