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Ca p ca put to is an interesting figure. he also did some work in the ukraine. he joined the trump campaign early on but then actually was fired by the trump campaign after he tweeted somewhat joy after lieu hes connected on the dark arts master who is someone in regular conversation with donald trump. played a big role in his campaign. but as you mentioned ca ppu tur o believes he did nothing wrong. he believes hes got nothing to hide. >> then ron, there is still people inside washington and be...