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About business. the russians, on the other hand, have this military development theyve been a part of for a couple of decades. its now been exposed and inept primarily because of the leadership is inept. that doesnt degrade what general milly said in terms of a threat that exists right now. completely in agreement general milly is spot on. were at a point where the united states have got to stand up and create partnerships that have some robust capabilities with limited time for reaction is what...

To reign if you will not unlike what the israelis have been dealing with for 4,000 years. they have robust intelligence capability and there are rules that need to be established in these various nations that get them more on a military footing, some type of conscription, some type of mandatory military presence, but otologist nato membership need to be forward presenced and then you can have those discussions on what those capabilities look like. clearly you need to have defense capability, imm...

Also. so, the idea of having permanent bases where u.s. and nato troops would rotate through i think would be very prudent. whether its the baltic states, whether its in poland, romania. i think what general milley is calling for is not for military families to move there but military units to rotate through on a periodic basis. i think that would be just prudent based on the threat of russia. >> and, general, in todays hearing, the u.s. defense secretary lloyd austin was forced to take time fro...

Fighter jets that could augment the ukrainian air forces capabilities. so a mig-29 as an example, something they could use, something theyre familiar with, that could actually work to provide an offensive capability that they have in a little bit but they need to augment that capability. they need to get a bit more of that in order to be able to actually take the battle to the russians because the battle space that were talking about here is one that is very large and it is -- it requires a lot ...

Capabilities, both who intend to fundamentally change the rules-based current global order. we are entering a world that is becoming more unstable. and the potential for significant international conflict between great powers is increasing not decreasing. >> im joined now by retired major general james spider marx. thanks for being with me. i guess the first question is do you agree with general milley? >> i do, jake. what hes saying is crystal clear. weve watched the chinese for the last couple...

Maintain their vehicles is that these vehicles require a lot of maintenance. they require a lot of fuel. and the russian logistical capabilities arent up to speed. at least they werent up to speed when it comes to kyiv. whether theyll be up to speed when it comes to places like kharkiv, that may be another story. but they need a lot of work on logistics if theyre going to make these things work on the battlefield. >> colonel, you have drones, you have stinger missiles, javelins all helped defend...

And we took the opportunity to, having them still in the country, to give them a couple of days worth of training on the switch blades so they could go back and they will be going back soon, back home, to train others in the ukrainian military and well -- that does not have to be the end all of it. well look at other suitable opportunities if needed to provide more training on the switch blades if its necessary. about you thats what they were referring to yesterday. >> so either version in pull ...

The u.k. so, well see where we get. i continue to believe it would be in the best interest if iran will do the same to get back in compliance with the deal. were not there. >> reporter: joining me back to ukraine. chief foreign correspondent in kyiv and chief white house correspondent, cohost of "weekend today." so, where is the russian army shifting its focus? theyre going north to belarus, repositioning and leaving behind some of the devastated cities. >> reporter: so, there are three fronts a...

Donbas has lasted eight years, maybe milley is right, this thing goes on for years as well. what do you think? >> general milley said it could take years. it doesnt have to take years. thank god during the entire trump administration we were giving the javelin missiles and training ukrainians how to use them. thats what has given them the fighting chance theyve had to keep this conflict alive. ill be honest. most of us on capitol hill never thought ukraine would still be standing on its feet lik...

Rest of the world. we have a president, commander-in-chief in the white house who is submitting budgets to congress that cut military spending. we arent going to deter anybody if we do that. >> bill: on that point with china and russia. the strategy hawkish in the pentagon wanted to make sure the united states had the capability to do this at any time. on that point back to milley from yesterday. >> were now facing two global powers, china and russia. each with significant military capabilities....