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number of migrant kids remained in custody but the biden teams are still not calling the situation, sandra, a crisis. >> john: griff jenkins is live near the border in el paso for us where we do expect to hear from a group of lawmakers a short time from now. the microphone is set up. i had a fat, you are on the ground they are. what have those lawmakers been seeing? >> hey, sandra and john, how are you? the leaders which by the way includes congressman tony gonzalez and el paso as part...

If thats the case -- listen. its hard to get people to -- speeding tickets to come court. you think youre going do catch somebody committing a crime and let them go and tell them to come back to court and theyre quoi going to come back? >> according to statistic the, reverend, 75% of them would. >> what statistics? where are you getting this from? >> the ones that are -- >> listen. you cant -- >> -- put out by the justice department. >> okay. what youre telling me is this. trying to sneak into t...

They do catch somebody, they might just simply throw them out of the housing complex? >> yes. yeah. i heard that, too. thats exactly what they plan on doing. why isnt jail an option for these people? i mean, it should be the minimum. they attacked first responders and they did it for sport. >> sure. if they can catch somebody and say, ok, well kick you out because you did that, they should also kick them out and charge them as well, right? >> yeah, absolutely. give them a new home. take them out...

>> heather: they are saying his company could make a lot of money off of relationships with china and other nations as a result of the real estate. how did they handle something like that? >> that is the real issue in politics today with the federal government, a $4 trillion enterprise that spends a lot of money and many trillions of dollars more with their policies, which is due the families of people in power benefit unfairly from the decisions they make and they are privy to? trump promises h...