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Border, charles? >> you start with a sentence. its very simple. people say oh fences dont work. you ke a ladder. well, then you build two fences. triple strand fences. san diego did that in the mid 90s and within a decade, the illegal immigration rate at that point was reduced by 90% and people ended up going through other places like arizona. if fences dont work, why is there one around the white house? if they dont work, why is it that the israeli fence would separate israel from the west bank...

Too. i dont know if thats a lock. >> why doesnt he do it? unconstitutional? >> he wants to do it himself. >> thats why im not sure he is serious. >> okay. thats legitimate. >> thats what a president does who is serious. >> i have got it take a break in the a minute. im going to hold charles over to talk about patriotism in a new poll. mexico i think has to be held accountable. if they dont start to patrol their own border and help us on ours. we do trade sanctions. are you on that? >> oh yeah an...

>> i am indicating its numbers are fairly constant and part of the drop in obamas ratings is that he is insufficiently liberal. i think, you know, the -- as you say, the numbers from gallup about self-identity by ideology are constant like 30 years. about 20% say they are liberal 40% say they are conservative. 35% are moderate. the other five% have no idea what the hell is going on oof course they are the ones that decide the election. >> all right, charles, we appreciate it one footnote after f...

Back of the book segment tonight, we continue with charles krauthammer who is in washington this evening. new poll, charles, asked adults do you often feel proud to be an american? 56% indicated they do. the rest 44%, big number, say no, not often. about american exceptionism, just 28% believe america stands above all the other countries in the world. 70% do not see it that way. so, charles refresh your recollection surprised by those numbers? women no, not really. the reason is if you break it ...