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Summer of 2015. >> thats before the first debate. >> i tell ya, except for three days in november when he fell behind ben carson. he led wire to wire in that republican race. we say it is early and it cha s changes a lot. >> trump was locked in. >> what are the milestones to you about when people start paying real attention? when the poll matters because people really heard the candidates and giver them consideration and it is not about name recognition. >> in terms of the primarieprim they are ...