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Who ate everyone elses cake, theyre divided on it because they didnt get enough. so i think it comes down to where actually peoples opinions are in the two camps. >> well, what -- could the democratic base, could the liberals among the democratic partys base provide that same kind of leverage to president obama? could they say to him, listen, very publicly, we are not going to accept it if you let the bush tax cuts go again, or if you touch a hair on medicares head, and that would allow the pres...

And that would allow the president to say, listen, its these crazy liberals over here. i just cant go anywhere on medicare. >> yeah. i think that is where the force sort of has to come. and it has to come, if liberals do care about this, making that demand felt and member, this doesnt all happen in the negotiations in the two weeks. there is precedent here in the dreaded primary that every republican member of the house and the senate is terrified of. a tea party primary. so they have already be...

>> well, what -- could the democratic base, could the liberals among the democratic partys base provide that same kind of leverage to president obama? could they say to him, listen, very publicly, we are not going to accept it if you let the bush tax cuts go again, or if you touch a hair on medicares head, and that would allow the president to say, listen, its these crazy liberals over here. i just cant go anywhere on medicare. >> yeah. i think that is where the force sort of has to come. and it...