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adequately be explained in terms of the department of justice's request for improved citizenship data to better enforce the voting rights act. several points taken together reveal a significant mismatch between the secretary's decision and the rationale he provided. clarence thomas said, i do not that a judge pre-disposed to distrust the secretary or the administration could arrange those facts on a corkboard and with a jar of pins and a spool of string create an eye-catching conspiracy web. your thoughts? >> the citizenship had the possibility of having devastating implications for the census undercount. african-americans and latinos are always undercounted in the census. we should expect that to happen in this census as well, but the citizenship question was clearly designed to discourage, particularly latinos, from
TermsDecisionPointsRequestSecretaryVoting-rights-actDepartment-of-justiceCitizenship-dataRationaleMismatchDistrustJudgehere to explain is nbc news justice correspondent pete williams and president and ceo of voter latino. help us understand what's happening here. what exactly are these new documents? >> it's all according to the aclu in a court filing they say that on the computer records left over by a long time republican consultant after he died found by a family member that they found drafts of what became ultimately the request by the commerce secretary. you're looking at a picture of this consultant, thomas hoffler. they say he actually said if the government can provide actual citizenship data it will be easier for republican controlled legislatures to design the political boundaries to make better advantage for republicans by identifying where latino voters are and then trying to disadvantage them and create more republican districts in the house and in state legislatures
PresidentJusticeCorrespondentNbc-newsHelpCeoPete-williamsDocumentsVoter-latinoConsultantComputerRequestgop and non-hispanic whites. not to upholds the voting rights act as the justice department claimed. pete, tell us about the back story here. >> this is what the aclu says is new evidence that came from computer materials left over after a long time republican consultant died. his daughter found the material and the aclu says it shows he was the brains behind this request by commerce to include the citizenship question on the census form. he thought that getting citizenship data would help republican legislatures more carefully and surgically draw districts for state legislatures and the congress to the advantage of republicans and the disadvantage of latinos. they say he gave all of this material to an adviser to commerce secretary ross and that he helped draft what became the
Republican-partyDepartment-of-justiceVoting-rightsNon-hispanic-whitesConsultantEvidenceAcluMaterialPete-williamsBack-storyDaughterComputer-materialsprograms, health studies, these studies require the most accurate population data. not citizenship data. think about a measles outbreak, do you care whether it's citizens who have it or noncitizens or do you want to know how many people have it. the "new york times" is shedding light on why they're pushing for this question in the first place. when the man died in 2018. his daughter was given 18 thumb drives of his laptop. among the data was a draft study on how adding a citizenship question to the census could help republicans gerrymander districts in their own favor. the case is interesting, the story is really interesting, but the bottom line, this case is
Citizenship-dataStudiesHealth-studiesWellness-programsPopulation-dataPeopleQuestionCitizensNoncitizensNew-york-timesMeasles-outbreakDatathis data saying it would help the government administer the data. that was filed in the district court yesterday. they sent a copy of that report to the supreme court with a letter saying here's what we filed. thought you ought to know this. they're saying the allegations are baseless. they're saying the government officials who drafted the letter had never heard of thomas's research. it played no role in their request and they'll respond more fully on monday as directed by the judge in new york. >> this guy whose computer this was found on, was known in political circles. >> he definitely has had a role in helping republicans use citizenship data and engineer gerrymanders to help republicans get elected. he did this study saying if you got more reprice data,
GovernmentReportCourtThoughtDataLetterCopyDistrict-courtAllegationsGovernment-officialsRoleThomass-researchability to stick with an issue, i don't think it's there. it's just not the kind of intellect you want in the white house. >> bill weld, 2020 presidential candidate and former governor of massachusetts. we have breaking news in washington on the trump administration's effort to get a question about citizenship onto the 2020 census. pete williams has been looking into this and joins us with more. >> the aclu has discovered new documents that show the real origins of this idea that it was not as the commerce secretary wilbur ross testified before congress, it's not an idea that originated in the justice department about a way to better administer the voting rights by getting citizenship data. the aclu says is new documents indicate it actually came from a longtime republican strategist who has consulted with the party and advised them on how to redraw the political district
AbilityIssueWhite-houseKindIntellectQuestionBill-weldGovernorNewsAdministrationCensusPete-williamsfundamentally counterproductive to the goal of obtaining accurate citizenship data. the inclusion of the citizenship question on the census threatens the foundation of the democratic system. >> that is one accept from the 112 case. shannon: we all learned -- >> i will say this decision on several basis, the commerce department didn't follow the rules to get to the decision but the more interesting thing is the constitutional issue, he said the decision violates the constitution because it defeats the ability of the government to carry out its responsibility of enumeration to counter people in a way -- there is no reasonable governmental purpose for why the secretary did what he did and he looked at the record, the fact that there appeared to be a lot of politics at play instead of
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