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Package that takes care of the military and the government is funding throughout the rest of the fiscal year. >> neil: theres many in the house that this is just going to add spending. that it will be an opportunity for people to decorate it like a christmas tree and add one unpaid for ornament after the other. what do you say to that? >> thats all my concern. these end of the year spending packages can get loaded up with specific priorities of individuals that we would like to keep it clean and...

Place. i thought sequester levels was a win for republicans and we should have taken the fight to the debt ceiling where it belongs where you actually have a valid point to say if we dont have reforms, then were going to have a debt crisis in the future. lets be responsible. lets do the difficult thing and actually do some reforms and avoid a real debt crisis where we dont have the luxury of just raising our debt ceiling because no one will buy our debt in the first place. >> anna, why not take ...

Themselves. china and japan, the landlord is calling. they want to make sure that americas not going to default on its debt. france is saying americas beginning to look like italy. >> i saw that column, yes. >> and where do house republicans go for this? because theres so much distrust, would they trust obama to -- would they trust the president to negotiate without a threat like this? >> well, i think they can work with it. they should be able to work within this frame and do it in a way -- you...

Heres to add one other thing to this. the idea that we dont use a debt ceiling or a crisis to get things done is simply absurd. unfortunately on both sides of the aisle there is not the political courage to do the tough things like deal with entitlements. anyone that disagrees with that doesnt know our history. anytime weve got something of substance done has been in a crisis. >> let me ask you, though. what i dont understand strategically, why shouldnt the republicans allow a c.r., clean c.r. t...

Of hope, though. >> congressman, what youre saying is that hundreds of thousands of people are out of work. the government is shut down because youre offended by the senate? theyre not nice to you? >> no, no, no, absolutely not. let me be very clear. that sound silly and im not going to let you frame the argument that way. this is very serious. when we dont fund our government properly, and we have c.r. after c.r., thats detrimental to the american people. when were at a situation where we can...

Crisis. >> let me ask you, though. what i dont understand strategically, why shouldnt the republicans allow a c.r., clean c.r. to come up for a vote? because the republicans are saying the votes arent there. the votes arent there. if thats really true, why not let it come to a vote and take away that argument from the democrats? because the democrats are continuing to hammer that argument. if theres not the votes there why not let it come up and fail? >> well, one of the problems youre asking th...

With it. they should be able to work within this frame and do it in a way -- you know, if you read in between the lines of what president obama said, he gave a little. >> what? but what did he give? >> he said, i will negotiate if you pass a clean c.r. i will negotiate. okay. now, he may not want to negotiate about the debt ceiling. he may not want to negotiate about the government shutdown without the clean c.r. so then they should negotiate about what theyre going to negotiate if and when -- [...

Government properly, and we have c.r. after c.r., thats detrimental to the american people. when were at a situation where we cant even talk to each other and facing the debt ceiling, that is detrimental to the american people. the president today said, we need to get back to a sense of normalcy. well, normalcy means passing appropriations bills. thats how we form -- and by the way, if we did that, we wouldnt be here tonight with a shut down government because thered be no c.r. if we pass approp...