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The u.s., as i understand it, is also supplying -- were supplying different communications devices, other quote, unquote, non-lethal forms of aid. what do you think the incremental steps are that would do what you and ambassador ginsberg are talking about? >> we have to get to the turks and help them. they had a turkish police officer summarily killed by assads army. we have to help them. i think the saudis would be a strong supporter of getting in there with the arab league and giving them real...