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Well, you have got to weigh, you have got to do all this to the indictment we are familiar with indictments lets do it lets go. Lets get it on air. 6 million pages of discovery . Come on. Lets go. Tv people thank you, my friend, as always. Thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. The article starts with this quote. The woman cannot believe it. She is in the same elevator with Rudolph Giuliani. Oh, this is a thrill. This is not someone in a maga hat at cpac last year. It is a random new yo...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:03:00

Kapo instead mr. giuliani wanted strike all levels of the mob family saying it was not an unrealistic goal to crush them. so giuliani went for the people at the top. >> the indictment of the national commission of organized crime -- according to the fbi, this nine member ruling body is co-chaired by the men who are the bosses of new yorks five organized crime families. the genovese family -- the gambia no family headed by big paul castolon -- oh the lou casey family, ruled by tony ducks colored ...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:58:00

Transfer of power, after follow this wherever it goes. and yeah, i think its true that this was not the most skillful band of traitors in global history. but the more we learn, the more we see how coordinated it was. the thing that should scare us all, is that if strawberry somehow to win, it will be much more skillful next time. clearly he doesnt think he did anything wrong. a lot of the people around him dont think he did anything wrong. so thats why its important to be held to account and one...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:06:00

100-year prison sentences. and the case may giuliani famous. and hes that fame to ultimately run for mayor of new york and, well, you know the rest of the story. but now a version of the same law -- georgias rico statute -- a version of that law could be rudy giulianis downfall. of all the indictments former president trump faces, one of the things that makes yesterdays unique ways, how many other defendants there or. because it is a rico case, trump was indicted along with 18 other codefendants...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:05:00

Influenced and corrupt organization act of 1970. you might know it more as rico. before 1970, prosecutors were limited to seeking indictments for specific acts, such as the commission of a crime to finding witnesses who would -- conspiracy. rico change that. if you could prove that there was an enterprise or an organized group of some kind, conspiring together to commit multiple crimes, then you could charge for that conspiracy. >> its back in 1983, i think -- when ron came to visit me to talk a...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:04:00

Controlled by the people at the top in the form of a criminal enterprise. in this case, a ruling body body with a mob boss from every family, a ruling body called the -- >> they are said to run the most powerful crime families in new york. in fact, in the nation. and according to the government, they make up the commission. the ruling body of a potent criminal enterprise dealing in drugs and extortion, loan sharking, labor racketeering and murder. and mafia hitters were rounded up in an overnigh...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:12:00

The charges against them simply fail to stay the federal crime. it should be diminished on that basis. so, six months will pass in the blink of an eye, i suspect, while these pretrial motions are litigated. whether this case ends up in federal court is a wide open question. but i think laura again is right to say that its not frivolous. but the judge -- if the judge reads the paper, whatever the defendant sends to the federal judge is supposed to be a short, plain statement -- this one is not. i...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:26:00

2 to 3 years. others received a lower sentences. and then there were folks on the high-end who received sentences well beyond five years, which suggests that, for the most culpable bowl culpable defendants, in a successful rico -- >> im going to assume that we are talking about donald trump when we see the people who are most involved in this. laura, what happens as the fani willis case and the jack smith case interject here? tell me definitively who gets priority. i >> think theres a fair amoun...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:13:00

Arranging phone calls, made visiting official of his affair facilities, down at the state, in cobb county -- prosecutors -- take issue with that. but i wonder, when we talk about flipping and sometimes when you have such a large pool of codefendants, the goal of the prosecutor is to leverage all of these people against each other. do you see this giant number of codefendants as a potential pool for flipping just to be -- i dont know. >> of course! >> can we call it flippage? im not sure. >> -- w...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:07:00

High-profile cases against individual defendants play out in court over the past few years. the trial against trumps former campaign manager paul manafort, for example. we know how those trials work. but what about a case against 19 people? but what about a rico case? how will this all work? and now that all 19 of this these individuals are facing serious jail time, how soon until someone in this case flips? -- make no mistake, as much as trump is surrounded by coconspirators case here, in both ...
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