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And not only the design profess nals of the 40-year certification but education of the process. a lot of the engineers that are doing it dont even have a standardized idea of what to check for. and the city municipalities dont enforce that. they just leave it up to the engineer. and by the way, i do want to -- before i go further, offer by condolences to the families of those that are lost and missing and also my appreciation to the first responders. >> well, of course. absolutely understood and...

Standardized idea of what to check for. and the city municipalities dont enforce that. they just leave it up to the engineer. and by the way, i do want to -- before i go further, offer by condolences to the families of those that are lost and missing and also my appreciation to the first responders. >> well, of course. absolutely understood and respected. but, you know, when them in mind, lets be careful about what we say because, you know -- look, you know theyre listening. there are so many pe...