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Lets listen. >> we also continue to see more and more disinformation being pushed out to the russian public, including the russian -backed separatists, claiming that ukraine is planning to launch a massive offensive attack in the -- well look, there is simply no evidence. this defies basic logic. >> so, based on what you know, joel, is calling it out enough to stop these provocations? >> well, up until now, we have seen the provocations, in terms of their physical nature, they are clearly causin...