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Controversy can help elevate an issue. and controversy can stir the pot and can buy time. and he never -- and if you think about his career, thats how -- thats been his philosophy. and thats how hes worked. so this is why conventional political advice, he would get it. he usually shuns it. because the conventional political advise, dont touch him. you need to wait. you need to wait until theres more cause. you need to create a process and you need to know who youre going to replace him with. all...

>> ari, to my other point, and we dont mean to split hairs here, can both be true? can the gist of the three-page letter be true that he went beyond his scope and his responsibilities, but can it also be true that has nothing at all to do with why he was fired? >> that could be true, as you put it. it could also be a contributing or mixed factor. so we dont know. i just think the letter leaves more questions than answers. and any lawyer can say it doesnt look like the normal process. this is an ...

Phillip, former deputy attorney general, be the new fbi director. but i believe every argument in there because theyve been made to me by former prosecutors since last july. the fbi does not make decisions about prosecuting. he overstepped, and in that memo there is a rebuke to him, you ought to have admitted it by now. >> professor, you heard the man. it doesnt appear this is about the russian investigation, but he was mean to hillary clinton. do you buy it? >> absolutely not. if this was reall...

Letter from the justice department. starting with the date. >> yeah. the date of the letter suggs that -- suggests it arrived and the president immediately made this decision. there are things that -- not everyone is a bad, il moral person. but it strains credibility when you look at that letter to think that was a fulsome process of a deputy attorney general in the first twoeeks that involved policy. lets not forget that nowhere in that letter does really deal with the fact that theres an open ...