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On the ground before we see russians or ukrainians able to come to some kind of deal to end the conflict wharnlg. >> what do you make of the talks happening? the french president, the german chancellor spoke with putin yesterday. more talks are expected going forward. what do you think is the best case scenario to get out of those talks, and what purpose do you think theyre serving right now? >> right now the talks are largely, i think, serving the purpose of keeping the lines of communications ...