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That out for yourself. which that wasnt a yes. that wasnt a no. and so i think that president trump will probably get asked about this again. he will have to take a very firm position on that. >> eli, this is to me the key issue. i signed off on this warrant, the extension of the carter page warrant, as did three people, including sally yates before him. would it have been obvious in your opinion that the court was not being fully informed about the dossiers role in the carter page application? ...

Have to show are being shown. under those circumstances, you could easily see an attorney general and fbi director missing some important facts because thats not their job. thats the job of the people closer to the actual investigation. but here you have a really fraught political situation where you are targeting for investigation somebody who has -- and i know the connection was formally broken. but you have somebody who does have a connection to the trump campaign. you know that youre relying...

Bought and paid for by one political campaign. and it is targeting at another political campaign. so any federal judge would want to have that information. and an important reason for that is unlike a criminal wiretap situation where everybody goes in with their eyes open, whatever work we give here, you know that some day this is going to be ape criminal case. its all going to be disclosed. its all going to be revealed. defense lawyers will pick over it. the trial judge will pick over it. you h...

And then subsequently learned that the information was sourced to the dnc and the campaign, i, the judge, would have rescinded the authorization and issued a cause order to explain who and why this sourcing was not made known to the court. the fact that the the government told the court it was awe political source but did not identify who in this particular instance is highly problem active that they purposely misled the court. what say you, andrew? >> i would agree with that. if a federal judge...

An intelligence gathering exercise, i dont see the need to recuse him. >> let me ask a second -- >> if i could just finish. if this is a criminal investigation, and if, for example, theyre trying to make an obstruction of justice case on trump and theres anything to do with that case that has to do with jim comeys being fired and if theres anything to do with this case that has to do with the evidence that was gathered in this fisa, if its going to be thrown over the intelligence wall and become...

Counterintelligence office would bring an application to the designated special assistant with the appropriate security clearances for a last look and recommendation to the a.g. before they went in for his review, and approval and submission to the court. i reviewed hundreds and hundreds of these. this is before there was a national security division which added another layer of view to these very sensitive matters. i still dont talk about the specific warrant applications, their targets or the ...

And the foreign intelligence surveillance court. francesca chambers of the daily mail covering the white house, eli covering covers national security, dell wilbur of the wall street journal. he covers of course the department of justice. eli, my first question, why not tell the fisa court all the details about the information presented to support the warrant on carter page, everything, every single thing? >> first of all, i dont know the answer to that. before we get too far ahead, it would be n...