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Sometimes you can get caught in an updraft where a hit is made that focuses on stories by african-american people and then its like, lets do a bunch of those. and thats going to last until, like, they start failing and then someone will look for the next hit. >> absolutely. and people, unfortunately people start to blame that thought of, like, well, you know, shows with black people of music theyre not into that. lets not do buddy buddy because theyre not into that. when you have the show "fresh...

>> absolutely. and people, unfortunately people start to blame that thought of, like, well, you know, shows with black people of music theyre not into that. lets not do buddy buddy because theyre not into that. when you have the show "fresh off the boat" it is the first show of asian-americans at the center theres so much focus on that rather than is it entertaining, is it fresh and unique. >> it becomes in the minds of executives, it becomes essentially proof concept test cases. yes. >> if it d...