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Congress still refuse to call it what it was, which was russian interference and really to start to take real action against the russian government to make sure that we send a clear signal to russia and other country whos would interfere are our elections in 2018, 2020 or beyond. for example, brian, i asked secretary johnson a direct question, which is does he know of any law that sets up any basic cyber security requirement to protect our voting systems? and his plain answer was no. that needs ...

Investigation. we dont want congress to interfere with witnesses to give people immunity while mueller is still in the early steps of his investigation. its a good sign that hes up on the hill and that everyone appears to be working together at this point. >> our thanks to our two highly capable lawyers, jeremy bash, joyce advance. thank you very much for this conversation. another break. when we come back, our questions for a democrat on the house intelligence committee. ur weekly tee times. bu...

Republicans did win. but the republican there karen handel did not run as a trump republican. we see the president himself not really running directly in step with the house republicans or the senate republicans. and so you have two different factions within this broader republican party trying to navigate this uncertain political moment to see trump if he can steady his presidency and consequential republicans if they can move forward to 2018 and not feel like theyre in total chaos. >> kimberly...

This is a crisis afoot and not acting to preserve and protect the next presidential election perhaps? >> yeah, whats specially disturbing is that president trump and the white house and even many leaders in the congress still refuse to call it what it was, which was russian interference and really to start to take real action against the russian government to make sure that we send a clear signal to russia and other country whos would interfere are our elections in 2018, 2020 or beyond. for exam...

Service and the second, its the only one where we can learn lessons and defend ourselves to the next election. >> joyce, you get the last word. are all of the investigations equal in the eyes of the law and the eyes of the justice department and the eyes of mr. mueller? >> so i think jeff makes a good point. its important to have an pope congressional investigation so people understand that what secretary johnson called for today, some level of national coordination, whether its a cyber czar or ...

Denied, later confirmed after they were uncovered. the letter directly confronts kushners security clearance. "it is unclear why mr. kushner continues to have access to classified information while these allegations are being investigated." and breaking just in the past hour from the pages "the new york times" is this. the white house is quietly lobbying house republicans to weaken a bill overwhelmingly passed by the senate last week that would slap tough new sanctions on russia for its meddling...

Kimberly, any reaction? >> i think thats one reason why you see the president back out where he likes to be which is on the pseudocampaign trail. hes announced there will be a fund-raiser next week. he likes to be in campaign mode. thats where hes happier and in his element when hes in the white house dealing with the constant steady stream of news about russia, he gets very more rose and withdrawn and its a problem. thats when hes most likely to strike out and do something whether its a twitter...

Among members of congress? its been said in the wake of it the georgia election last night that the democrats have nothing going except being the party of anti-trump. but it does seem that the republicans will need accomplishments to run on since the entire congress is up in 18 months. >> well, yes. the republicans definitely need to notch up some achievements between now and then. health care is going to be a big one. we have to wait to see what the cbo says about this new senate version of thi...

Congress noose russias possible coordination with members of mr. trumps team are occupying the presidents focus more than ever. officials say and without a big legislative achievement soon or significant win to calm his nerves, they say the president could take action to dramatically shuffle his white house team." kimberly, any reaction? >> i think thats one reason why you see the president back out where he likes to be which is on the pseudocampaign trail. hes announced there will be a fund-rai...

It must be compelling information that hes taking to them to elicit this kind of response from people like congressman gowdy. >> thats a great point. and jeremy, does mueller investigate or is he fueled by what we now have in testimony the president not expressing any curiosity or anger to the former fbi director, the president not expressing any curiosity or anger to his sitting attorney general over the fact that this country was attacked in our election process by russia? >> yeah, he appears ...