was brainstormed as possibly, maybe somehow legal gives way to the illicit intent. congress overturning vote, states overturning votes, pence overturning votes, any one of those things has the making of a coup if it cancels an election. almost sounds obvious. but they are worse taken together. the military seizing voting machines, this key point, this is something that rudy giuliani said would land them all in prison. rudy giuliani. he s already lost his law license. we ll see what else happens to him but that is the context as we showed tonight that when that fails is the first time the same night that donald trump comes in and says, all right, i can t abuse military power. i m even being told by my most aggressive lawless lawyers, the kinds that he apparently prefers, that that s not going to work so that s when i bring muscle to january 6th. but we have had in this country in our minds and apparently at
intent is worse when all the facts are shown about the plot so let s take a look. trump began the public operation to sabotage january 6th as a certified vote which was criminal only after hitting this dead end in the failed plot to have the military help a coup. now, his lawyers warned him of the criminal issues here, the criminal intent and actions of that military plot and he still moved continuously from that conspiracy to this one. now, that s damning evidence if prosecutors are indicting a broader conspiracy and the white house aide connecting both plots is navarro whose aide helped sneak in the military plotters there then he s part of trump s january 6th announcement that begins with the navarro plan and it s notable he fought so hard to hide his own evidence and testimony while trying to spin his own role, even he began denying any involvement in the plot about the military seizing
political scientist clarence lusane wrote about it, the vote is done with one vote per state, not districts. now, whether all of that is immediately digestible on first constitutional explanation or not is i think an open question. but my point to you is and this sometimes is obscured if you look at all the plots together, there was a mechanism where they would potentially win, particularly if the supreme court allowed it. they never got to that point which goes to what did go down on january 6th. all those failed plots, all that desperation leading to donald trump s fix says on one of the last red arrows, getting mike pence to attempt a coup. if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election. i hope mike has the courage to do what he has to do. and trump kept pushing pence on this as late as january 4th and those other unlawful plots
1877? i think a lot of that depends on the courage of the individuals involved. vice president mike pence? yes. do you realize you are describing a coup? no. and that s where these three plots actually go hand in hand. trump intended any of them to hopefully work in his mind but ideally they would work together. get the states or congress or pence to lie and declare that they re overthrowing the vote. now, under the rules, there s a way it could have gone farther or a standoff with two dueling president-elects. this is not a movie. this is not fan fiction. it s vital to understand for preventing it from happening in the future. i ll explain how and why after this break. reak grandmom! walgreens find rx coverage is here to make medicare easy.
they have weapons. they re not here to hurt me. take the mags away. we ll walk down to the capitol because you ll never take back our country with weakness. the capitol was breached at 2:00 p.m. the committee probe has shown this last plot was working, i repeat, it was literally working. the plot was to sabotage the certification by prevention or delay. it was delayed. in fact, law enforcement predicted it would take days more delay before congress could even certify the vote. we need you to get the building cleared, give us the okay so we can go back in session and finish up the people s business. some people here in the capitol police believe it would take us several days to secure the building. do you agree with that analys. days. that s how close it came. congress did not certify this