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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 10:06:00

election has been independently certified, president trump, you go first. i m urging supporters to go into the polls and watch very carefully. there was. that was the plan. that s evidence of illicit intent then trump lied and purported to claim victory late on election night. that itself is unprecedented in american history. it was way late into the night or the early morning and we were fact-checking his claims that he would be the one to decide the results of the election he was running in. trump is losing right now in both the popular vote and electoral vote. frankly, we did win this election. this is a major fraud in our nation so we ll be going to the u.s. supreme court. we want all voting to stop. the election and the counting and the processing of ballots is not controlled legally by the president. the president would not have to do that if he thought he was going to win the election. right. everyone saw that in

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 10:31:00

a standard certification and then get to a rare but actually possible measure where a contested presidential race would be resolved by a congressional vote. now, if you re thinking, well, democrats won the house, so why would they want that? they actually plotted this out and they knew something that is very relevant to the future of american democracy. when you get this very unlikely but possible measure to resolve a contested election, that congressional vote could be measured by state where republicans actually have the edge so had they succeeded, republicans then would have had the chance to claim, at least make the argument that trump had won by a house vote because even in a democratically controlled house, they would as of january 21 have the advantage when you count by state.

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 10:13:00

well, that would be wrong and according to many experts completely illegal even if there never was an insurrection on the 6th. and we checked the records and some of the unlawful details have leaked out at the time, but, again, this is what is so important tonight. they may have seemed more like delusion and pr at the time than what they look like now which is an indictable criminal conspiracy. tonight, we can report this was a very real attempt to launder and normalize in public what i m about to show you in public at the time what we now know they were conspiring about in private. elector fraud and states just stealing the vote. today an ultimate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we re going to send those results up to congress. something that rudy and the team have worked on, the trump slate of electors are showing up today in the state capitols. we fought to seat the electors.

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 10:33:00

were re-emerging as a kind of pretext even though as you ve seen they didn t all work. indeed, senate republicans were trying to get that fraudulent elector material to pence on that very day with pence s aide pushing back, don t give him that. that s the elector fraud stuff. this was, as you see on your screen, within roughly 20 minutes of pence arriving and over 130 republicans did vote to object to the certification including eight republican senators. so these different disparate plots are not disparate. they all congeal and then you have trump sending what he knew were armed people to the capitol at a point where he knew he needed something more than all of those other seven thwarted plots he tried. i overheard the president say something to the effect of, you know, i don t effing care if

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