comes in mark meadows and xerox may live when he thinks. a follow-up the stories i hear. >> potentially dozens of criminal cases that languished. >> shannon: we will talk to a former dea agent in the middle of investigations. said the obama administration undermining critical task force to target hezbollah as a president pursued a nuclear deal with iran. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. newsnight: fox news confirming that the justice department is opened a new inquiry into the clinton foundation. fbi agents in little rock, arkansas, taking the lead, focusing on one of the clinton foundation engaged and pay to play politics and other illegal activities while hillary clinton was secretary of state. fox news has also learned investigators are looking into whether the clinton foundation
violated tax laws. also new details tonight on special counsel robert special counsel robert mueller's inquiry into president trump firing a former fbi director. former chief of staff reince priebus has handwritten notes about how president trump called comey to urge him to say he was not under investigation. also went to lengths to prevent jeff sessions from recusing himself. we'll have more with congressman mike meadows, calling on sessions to resign among the growing number of leaks like it appears "the new york times" is gone. more news on the book "fire and fury," featuring explosive statements from steve bannon. bannon talking about running for president himself. and much more. it appears to be too much for his allies. one g.o.p. donor and influencer appears to be breaking with the antiestablishment star of the g.o.p. kevin corke is working late. >> great to be with you. yesterday, the president had
died out. any talk of imitating the clintons are hillary clinton. >> both things can be true. you would know this. we have probably 98, 97 districts, federal district court to the united states. each of them has united states attorney. the one in the eastern district of arkansas has been a hotbed of this kind of stuff for decades. where the clintons have been and where the clintons i'm gone, controversy and scandal has always followed. the u.s. attorney out there is named cody highland, i believe his name is. he's a mike huckabee veteran. he was working for mike huckabee when the clinton machine was trying to take him out as governor. old blood feud stuff. deep down arkansas delta business. what you see is this u.s. attorney's office, this fbi field office has the -- whatever the justice department wants to do our base it has to be
approved in washington, but if this prosecutor out in little rock wants to take good look at with the clintons between what was going on, i don't think there's probably much to stop it. you and you think it goes anywhere? we been told before there's nothing to it. there's no smoke, no fire. >> if you love america and i'm told reliably you do, even though you beat me at trivia today. >> shannon: we are not going to talk about it. too soon. >> still smarting. it's reasonable to want complete answers about what went on with the trump campaign and also complete answers about how the clinton machine, the operation clinton incorporated, how it operated, what he did, what was going on. we remember peter schweizer's book. "the new york times" reported on it, it had a lot of stinky stuff in it. if people thought they were paying for favors from the secretary of state when she was
in office, that something we ought to want to know about and we should be able to hold those two thoughts and our minds concurrently. >> shannon: "the daily beast" is reporting the doj, they have information and are reopening a look into hillary clinton's email heard we've seen and judicial watch reported that they have pressed for information and have uncovered there were more classified information, documents, emails, on anthony weiner's laptop. his wife huma abedin, close confidant of the clintons. sounds like there may be some interesting reopening, whether she mishandled classified information. >> may be, there is a rabbit trail here. this has more thickets around the maybe the other one, these questions been explored. people think james comey did it wrong. people think the fbi did it wrong. we have two or three investigations into the investigation of the investigation. presumably we will get to some clarity on this but that will come as one unit, not some specific pull aside about huma abedin. >> shannon: i want to talk
about the quotes and speculation in the michael wolff book. it's gotten ugly between bannon and the president. they were once very, very tight. although the presidencies to be downplaying that at this point. >> [laughs] accurate. steve and i will classify that as a go far. michael wolff, author of this. he tweets you can buy it and read it tomorrow. threaten us with letters and losses but your drawing more attention to it. in the copy we've gotten, it bannon was telling people something else. he steve bannon was going to run for president in 2020. he talked about the present was negative peach, resigned or barely make it your winter. >> is much as it pains me to spend any of their syllable my life discussing steve bannon's
theses about power, he was talking if trump didn't runner wasn't running, he was going to challenge trump. the bannon stuff here is basically a comeuppance for a guy who over stated, hyped his own game, with the help of the press who loved to make him into this svengali behind trump in controlling trump. there had to be more to it. it could just be red hats and rallies. the need to be some intellectua intellectual, and bannon audition for that part and was granted that by the press and now he goes kablooey. the interesting stuff isn't about steve bannon. it's about how that white house worked in the opening months and what it means about john kelly, what it means about the level of confidence the staff has in the president. i will say, after all the allegations in the book, donald trump needs to give a real interview or hold a real press conference or do something soon to demonstrate to voters that the allegations in this book that he is senile or
incompetent are untrue. he needs to get out and lay those dressed quickly or it will stick. >> shannon: there's always an open invitation for them to come. interview with us on fox news at night. it can happen. we will make it happen. good to see you. you may not have heard but there's good economic news happening. dow jones industrial average hitting its seven 1,000-point milestone closing above 25,000 for the first time. this began after president since president trump took office. a new report says private sector job creation surged, companies they will give workers pay raises. president trump weighing in on twitter saying:
for days and to the new year their showdowns brewing in washington. a battle looming over immigration reform and democrats continue to insist on a daca deal before funding the government. the trump administration opening up new political battle fronts with plans to expand offshore drilling and ramp up enforcement of marijuana laws. >> with a rapid pace of initiatives and controversies, the trump administration is keeping all monikers on their toes while entering the democrats and even a few republicans are down right angry. first off, as you said, legislatively is daca. mr. trump invited a handful of republicans, john cornyn of texas and tom cotton of arkansas and lindsey graham of south carolina show at houston health crafton immigration policy.
>> any legislation on daca must secure the border, the wall, give immigration officers the resources they need to stop illegal immigration and also to stop these overstates and crucially the legislation must end chain migration. >> many democrats say they can't support such an immigration bill, both the house and senate will need some democrat votes before they can get this thing across the finish line. separately today the department of interior announced plans to open up 90% of the u.s. outer continental shelf to oil and gas leases. most of the florida congressional delegation including republicans and other atlantic state lawmakers are deeply opposed, fearing what could happen to tourism if an accident happens. tweeting "the plan is extremely alarming and unacceptable." attorney general jeff sessions rescinding obama euro marijuana enforcement guidelines.
sessions is leaving it up to federal prosecutors and states allow legal pot sales with her to crack down on the trade. advocates who witness the benefits of medical marijuana and states' rights conservatives are livid at this decision. colorado republican senator cory gardner said sessions promised him during his confirmation hearings he would not interfere with these state decisions. >> i believe what happened today was a traveling of colorado's rights, its voters, and that's why i will be putting a hold on everything the nomination from the department of justice. until attorney general jeff sessions loads up to the commitment that he made me and my confirmation, preconfirmation meeting with him. >> sessions it's also catching flak from conservatives on a different issue. mark margo's writing that sessions has no control over the premier law enforcement agency in the world. that the time for a new attorney general is now.
stay on all right. doug mckelway, thank you very much. republicans will control the house of delegates in virginia and they have got the look of the draw to thank for it literally. it all came down to a single contested state host race which had flip-flopped back-and-forth after recount and raider trickle razor-thin margins. a panel refused to hear shelley "night court"'s arguments. that left it in a tie. state board of elections met today to choose the winner. they pulled a name out of a bowl. david yancey was declared the winner after his name was selected. simonds says she is not ruling out seeking another recount. we will hear from congressman mark meadows in a moment on this call for the attorney general to resign. plus president trump's fitness for office. according to political, lawmakers talk to a psychiatrist who claims he's falling apart.
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listen to this clip from a segment about business in seattle. >> 2018 brought to golden state in line with other west coast dates for marijuana retail shops and products. the even playing field may expand the number who want to buy but could undercut any attempt to make seattle a special destination for pot tourism. an add-on rather than a main attraction. >> a lot of the participants want a count of his tour of some sort to be part of their seattle visit. >> shannon: now i multiple state options. a diverse group of critics worried about so-called marijuana normalization. they are praising sessions for allowing the feds to enforce federal law despite states who decided to do their own thing. former obama administration drug
policy advisors has doj's move will stop the massive infusion of money going to fund pot candy, cookies, ice creams, and other kid friendly edibles. a mom who lost her daughter to a driver high on pot says marijuana is seen as benign all too often. i hope those days are over. former democrat congressman says the memo had been waved around by pot executives for years. searching for legitimacy among investors and banks. it's time to put public health over profits. the public seems divided. states' rights versus doing what they believed to be the right thing. joining us now, mark meadows. we have many things to talk to you about tonight. we'll start here. gray to have you with us. what you make of this? i want to read it more of a statement we got from senator gardner's office. optical reports that the justice department will rescind their current policy on legal marijuana enforcement are extremely alarming. in 2016, president trump said marijuana legalization should be
left up to the states and i agree." what do you think? think of here's what we have inl law. this president has been consistent. he said if there's along the books, let's make sure we do it. just like we are having to deal with daca because we had president obama overreaching on the deferred action, he says it's time for congress to act. i think on this one it really is for congress to rescind the federal law, not an executive agency. cory is a good friend and i understand he is representing his state but there comes a point where you allow states to affect federal policy and set of the other way around, and i think that's troubling. i support attorney general sessions in this move. it really takes effect of congress. now is the time for us to act. if we want to address this issue. >> shannon: other criticisms you have of the attorney genera
attorney general. jim jordan, you wrote a piece and say you are tired of leaks happening. no evidence of collusion in it are leaks all the time from places like "the new york times." we have another piece out tonight where they cite multiple anonymous sources with all kinds of of inside information from the mueller investigation from people either in the white house are briefed on things that happen at the white house. you say it's time for the leaks to stop. if sessions can't address it, there's one final question. one of the time for a new attorney general? sadly it seems the answer is no now. >> no one has lost their job yet. the fbi and doj leak more than a 60-year-old boat. we have more leaks coming out every day. critical importing that we address it but not just that. the attorney general needs to do his job. when he recused himself, where it is his recusal start and sto
stop? there's a big frustration on capitol hill. we have investigated this russian collusion for 16 months. there is no collusion. there is no evidence of collusion and yet here we are in a situation where we know that leaks are happening. we know based on these reports that he have used a dossier in an inappropriate manner. yet we can't get the very documents to have proper oversight. we are tired of stonewalling. i talked to chairman nunes this evening. he's going to get some documents tomorrow. that's a good step in the right direction. but we have seen this before. listen, i've been an oversight for over five years. what happens is they promise you they are going to get it to you. they give it to fully redacted so a page of just blacked out lines. it's time that we get to the bottom of this and it's time that we hold the fbi and doj accountable to the standard they
should be held accountable. >> shannon: we have talked about this. do you think it's a "deep state" problem. are there people in the administration, opponents of the president, who are keeping you from getting the information ine congress is legally entitled to? >> we don't have to look much further than the text messages between peter strzok and lisa page to see some type of bias. whether that carries over into the investigation, we need to look at all the text messages. we need to fully look at that. in my conversations with others, are there people within the higher ranks of doj and the fbi that certainly are not wanting to come forward with some of this information? i believe that's the case. i'm not a conspiracy guy. at the same time, give us the documents. we requested some 15,000 pages of documents. >> shannon: the obstruction, stonewalling, leaks, are you calling on the attorney general to resign? >> i'm calling on him to do his
job. if you will do his job immediately and right away and quit making excuses, you had part of the lead up to this, you had attorney general session saying well, it's not time for special prosecutor. when we see the text messages and emails we've already visited, there seems to be some at least appearance of impropriety. it's time that we actually get to the bottom of it and so he's got a very short fuse from my standpoint. if he can do his job, more power to him. we welcome the information. >> shannon: congressman mark meadows. great to have you. lawmakers questioning president trump's mental health. we're going to tell you what one psychiatrist had to say. president trump street blame for unrest in iran? vice president pence says europe and the u.n. are not doing enough to help people there. stay tuned. former u.n. ambassador
john bolton joins us.
>> when dr. bandy lee finished up more than six teen hours of private meetings, she apparently convinced some it was time to invoke the 25th amendment saying the president was mentally unfit to fulfill the duties of the office. she indicated that getting republicans to sign on would be trickier. dr. lee acknowledges it's unethical for a psychiatrist to diagnose from afar but she believes it's her duty to warn the public about their leaders psychological instability which is why she and 26 of her liberal colleagues wrote the book "the dangerous case of donald trump." the president is compared to an american hitler, showing signs of impulsivity, recklessness and paranoia. here is dr. lee. >> when silence contributes harm to the public health, we have a duty to speak out.
and the duty to warn and the duty to protect is pervasive in our practice. >> not all mental health experts feel that same sense of duty. in fact some say the dangerous case of donald trump is nothing but in fatuous, tawdry tabloid psychiatry. fox's doctor says it's highly unlikely that you are -- saying dr. bandy lee is either an opportunist or a fool. he makes it clear he is not diagnosed her. should be noted the stock market hates uncertainty and instability. today the dow crossed 25,000. >> shannon: it did. joining me now, townhall.com
columnist and radio host derek hunter and leslie leslie marsh. assuming we are mentally healthy enough to have this debate, i want to talk more about this. bandy lee admits she has not met the president. she says "we feel that the russia tweeting is an indication of his falling apart under stress. trump is going to get worse and will become uncontainable within the pressures of the presidency." derek, seems like he's been the same guy we've seen. we've known. ration bold and off-the-cuff. do you think he's changed? >> no. i have been a fan of the apprentice since the apprentice. it's a weird thing and washington, d.c., that no one speaks their mind. i have to give her credit for her willingness to violate the ethics of her profession in
order to sell books. i think a book could be written about the violation of ethics for her profession. spewing she came here in brief people over a two-day period about what would happen. there's been a discussion about the 25th amendment that provides a way for the vice president in the cabinet members to step in if they think the president is unable, incapacitated. to that discussion, alan dershowitz who has not been a conservative ever, says this "the 25th amount would require a major psychotic break. this is hope of reality. if we don't like someone's politics, vote against them. we don't use the system. >> i think it's dangerous to sound like you're making a diagnosis when you haven't actually seen a patient in any area of medicine.
i think it's important for the american people to be aware of what's going on with their leader. it's important for this or any leader to have proper medical treatment. for congress to be briefed by somebody who hasn't seen him, to me is not ethical and quite frankly even know i'm a democrat. i've set up before. you've heard me. this is not how the removal of donald trump happens. this is not how it's going to come about because you don't have the vice president. you don't have the cabinet, the republicans. even the one republican that sat down for the meeting. i think this is a waste of time because this individual has not seen him. having said that though he has some tweets that are very similar to north korea leader who many people think is a wing not. he needs to stop some of that behavior. >> can we talk about -- >> shannon: we know he's not
going to change his behavior. any -- she's not going to change his behavior. he feels like by using twitter, that's why he won. the left knowing it's highly improbable that any this could happen, the 25th amendment et cetera, do you think it's making them feel better to talk about. >> this is further based. you have members coming out and talking about how the president seems unhinged from afar through somatic admits they are violating the ethics of their profession. it really is scared to go crazy, advocating for policies that have failed the world over. the u.k., their national health system, they have canceled nonemergency procedures because their system can't handle it. many members met with dr. lee who had vacates to bring that sort of system here. i would take 180 characters and crazy over a nationwide policy
over 16 of the u.s. economy. >> shannon: leslie, what do you make of derek's assessment that a lot of people just aren't used to plain spoken, straight talking people in d.c. everybody here is a spin doctor. this precedent doesn't do that. is it such a shock? >> no. but i do think that one individual talks about the ability to start a nuclear war which could kill millions of people .. >> if somebody threatens on twitter that my button is bigger than yours and i can press it and it's right here, ts dangerous talk when you are dealing with a very dangerous and unstable leader overseas like we have in kim jong un. that's the type of behavior i think people on my side of the aisle question the stability of with regard to the president. >> shannon: we've got to leave it there. derek and leslie, we will close
this out. thank you both very much. as the death toll rises in iran, president trump's tweets are being blamed for the unrest in the streets of tehran and other cities. north korea testing more missiles. we will tell you where to get the latest reaction from john bolton. ..
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nikki haley requesting a security council meeting on iran. former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton joins us. this meeting ambassador haley called for. >> it's important to continue the discussion about why the people of iran are rising against the regime. i think that's quite significant. i don't expect any substantive action out of the u.n. i think russia and china will block any meaningful new sanctions. honestly i have to say that our friends in europe haven't exactly stood up on this issue. the discussion will go ahead but i don't see anything coming out of it. >> shannon: the vice president said "the united states has spoken clearly and unequivocall unequivocally. unfortunately many of our european partners as well as the united nations have thus far failed to forcefully speak out on the growing crisis in iran. it's time for them to stand up." who are recalling out?
>> the european union. germany for, france, great britain unfortunately partners in the deal with iran on the nuclear question. it shows the iranian strategy, the obama strategy work. they sucked us into being able to trade and invest with iran. europe sees the possibility of profits. they are blind to what's happening in the streets of iran. i didn't write that article for mike pence but i wish i had because it's exactly the right point to make. >> shannon: what about pakistan? we got word today from the state apartment we are going to freezing substantial security students we get to that country. a lot of talk talk from this administer ration about the fact that they haven't been reliable partners in the fight against terrorism. >> i remember george bush after 9/11, what he said with respect to terrorism. you are either with us or against us. people said it's terrible. you shouldn't hold nations to account. i think it was the right thing to say then and i think
president trump is really going back to that. freezing this assistance i think he is incredibly important to signal to pakistan. we have to remember that in this unstable political environment, civilian government not being all that strong, military in pakistan increasingly infiltrated by radicals. they are a nuclear weapon state. if you push them all the way over to the other side, you risk having those nuclear weapons being dispersed to terrorists who could take them anywhere in the world. that's something we've got to focus on as well. leaning on pakistan, it's about time. >> shannon: looking back on the last demonstration. we are getting confirmation that there's an investigation looking into the clinton foundation, whether there was pay to play, favors done for countries and any connection with bill or hillary clinton. >> i think these questions need to be answered. i am very disturbed. as a justice department alumnus myself, disturbed by the politicization of law enforcement, intelligence.
investigations cut off that should've been allowed to go forward. i believe this investigation which is being conducted by the u.s. attorney's office for arkansas is exactly the right way to do it. you don't need a special counsel. this, i trust the career prosecutors and i think we ought to let it go ahead. there's so many things about the foundation that look like tammany hall. let's see what it looks like. >> shannon: all right, ambassador. great to have your thoughts. massive snowstorm following the east coast from blizzard conditions and bitter winds to coastal flooding in some parts. a bomb cyclone update coming our way. first, next was of interview with a former senior d.a. official at the heart of politico's report that the obama investigation derailed investigation into hezbollah's drug
>> shannon: a bombshell report by politico alleging the obama administration interfered with the federal investigation into how iran backed chair groups hezbollah turn profits on illegal drugs and weapons trafficking. according to the report the previous administration didn't want anything to get in a way of a nuclear deal with tehran. you remember we spoke with the investigative reporter who broke the story. >> federal investigators were watching in gathering evidence of hezbollah sort of transforming itself from a political power and terrorist organization to one that was trafficking in drugs. they were doing it to raise money to help rebuild after the israel war and help in expansion they were doing globally. they gathered evidence, designated a couple dozen super facilitators as people that were connected by this conspiracy but when they tried to delve deeply into the people, they got shot
down. >> shannon: we are bringing you an interview with the former special agent in charge of the dea special operations division quoted extensively in the political report. great to have you with us. i want to read a little bit of what he said. you said there's no doubt my mind now that the focus was the iran deal and our initiative was kind of like a fly the soup. we were like the train that went off the track. at what point did you realize all this until you've you gathered about the millions that hezbollah was laundering even through this country and around the globe, wasn't going to be prosecuted. >> i found it very odd fit in our backyards all over america they were sending used cars back into west africa to sell and the profits of these used cars and drug trafficking money was going to support hezbollah. i found it kind of odd that we didn't have unity of effort to shut it down. i found it odd we didn't have leadership in the administration that would enforce and hold people accountable to bring the
agencies to gather to ensure that we can protect the american public. >> shannon: you were in a meeting with attorney general eric holder who seemed to be interested in this. you were told there would be a follow-up, they would be getting back to you. what happened? >> eric holder was very supportive of the special operations division. i was fortunate to be in charge of that for almost ten years at a most every operation he approved and was supportive. in this particular case, we proved eric holder. he was alarmed by the findings of this particular investigatio investigation. the magnitude of money and drugs moving around the world. eric holder was pretty serious about having follow-up meetings with national security team members and the briefing never happen. it was very strange for me sitting there listening to the attorney general of the united states directing his people to have a meeting to get more information from the dea and our interagency partners about this global trade based money laundering scheme and they weren't interested.
>> shannon: in the meantime the administration is working on a deal with iran over its nukes. josh meyer, who did the political piece, came to this idea that it's possible that's what this is all about. they didn't want to go heavy on hezbollah because they wanted to get the nuke deal done. is that your impression? >> look, i don't have any information on what was going on behind the scenes on the oral new deal. honestly from my perspective you have this magnitude of money and drugs moving through our country and the banks, that should've been something our government enforced full accountability on all the agencies. it didn't happen. we had significant successes. we had tremendous response from the u.s. attorney's office and southern district of new york. we did a $400 million civil seizure on the bank and 30 businesses. we put 30 businesses in this action but there were hundreds
of businesses still operating today. cars going to west africa, car parks are lined up and they are booming. "the wall street journal" article at the end of 2016 talked about how the car parks are exploding all over west africa. they are coming from our backyards. >> shannon: you are saying this is how the money is being laundered. >> it is being laundered. they are supporting hezbollah. they are buying weapons. criminals, terrorists are turning to criminal networks for funding. state sponsorship is down. they need funding to operate, to corrupt government officials. drug trafficking and other criminal activities helping generate hundreds of millions of dollars. the u.n. estimated drug trafficking a few years ago was generating $400 billion a year on the world. terrorists are taking advantage of this opportunity financially. they need the money to operate. >> shannon: i want to let you to reply to a couple obama
administration officials who had -- shot down. she used to be at the state department. we will play her. marie harf. >> the politico stories just false. there is no evidence in the story to backup the allegations. they quote a couple low-level ideological sources who clearly don't like the iran deal. >> low-level sources? i was head of the special operations division for over ten years. 30 agencies, three countries, the nypd. that lady didn't work on the operations. she worked as a bureaucrat in washington talking about policy and stuff, but she wasn't involved day today in the operations. she didn't see what we saw every day on the streets of america and in europe, west africa, and so i have a problem with her referring to the low level sources. the folks that spoke about the story were intricately involved in every aspect of the case.
as a matter of fact, david asher was the expert in the first action against north korea and helped us put together the patriot act in this case to shutdown the international trade based money laundering scheme. >> shannon: thank you for all of your work. thank you for coming in. >> i would just like to say that this particular photo right here is why we were trying to shut this scheme down. >> shannon: we both tweeted out so people know what you won't see these folks at the post office. they have businesses to run. they have passions to pursue. how do they avoid trips to the post office? stamps.com mail letters, ship packages, all the services of the post office right on your computer. get a 4 week trial, plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale.
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again, along with obamacare, of course. the funny thing is, trump is using this approach to try to appeal to latino voters, while at the same time promising to bring to america the political style and economic policies of the strongmen leaders of places like argentina and venezuela, which have some of the highest inflation rates in the world right now. make it make sense. tomorrow is set to be a big day for economic news. we will get a new inflation report in the morning and the fed will give an update on interest rates in the afternoon. so is rachel maddow would say, watch this space. and that is tonight's "reidout". you can follow me on tiktok and instagram and follow our show accounts on instagram and tick tock. "all in with chris hayes" starts now. tonight on "all in" -- >> as we deliberated today, we reached a verdict pretty quick. >> the presidents son found guilty of violating federal gun laws. >> no one in this country is above the law. everyone must be accountable for their actions, even this offender. >> tonight, what today's verdict does and does not mean about the rule of law in america. >> everyone is saying, where is hunter? a two-tiered system of justice we have. >> and how we campaign led by a convict is vetting potential running mates. >> certainly like having committed a crime -- and the scandal that just won't end. >> i want a sacred heart of jesus flag because i have to look across the lagoon at the pride flag. >> tonight jamie raskin and aoc together on their push to get answers from the supreme court. >> can you tell us how the supreme court and specifically the chief justice have addressed these scandals? >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i am chris hayes. in a political era marked by a never-ending string of historic firsts, here is another today. a rare court decision that conservatives received with glee. >> hunter biden has been found guilty on all counts in his gun trial, federal trial in wilmington, delaware. >> hunter biden, the last living son of the sitting president was convicted today on three felony counts connected to lying on a federal firearms application in 2018 by not disclosing his struggles with drug addiction. he had that gun for 11 days. hunter biden now faces 25 years in prison and his father, president joe biden, did not blast the case as a crooked witchhunt. he did not target the prosecutors, the judge and the jurors, some of whom called into major news shows to discuss the verdict with no fears for their safety in this high-profile case. president biden did not shake his fist at the justice system. he put up this statement. as i said last week, i am the president, but i am also a dad. jill and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. so many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride. as i also said last week, i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal. jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that. i have to say i find that genuinely touching. his love of family. also respect of the process. it is an incredibly stark contrast to the ceaseless barrage of absolutely unhinged authoritarian histrionics we all witnessed last month. remember? not just donald trump, but the entire republican party. all of the people dressing up like donald trump who went to the courthouse so he will pick them to be vice president. all of them basically calling to tear down the entire judicial system or casting aspersions on new york jurors or the judge or the prosecutor. everyone. all because their nominee got caught falsifying business records and was convicted unanimously by a jury of his peers on 34 felony counts. >> this was a rigged trial by a convicted judge who was corrupt. a disgrace. >> this is like a soviet style thing. show me the person and i will show you the crime. >> this was a political smear job. this is what you see in banana republics. >> this is the most outrageous travesty i've ever seen. >> this is a justice system that hunts republicans while protecting democrats. this was a hoax, a sham. >> do we want to become a country where we try to jail are political opponents? >> what do you think the party affiliation of hunter biden is? and so this hunter biden conviction is as clear a moment of contrast as possible between the two major coalitions, the major parties in the country today. what it illustrates is that one party, under donald trump, and this is important, has placed itself outside the american constitutional order, while the other is trying to defend and uphold it. that was clear as day on january 6, but particularly in the aftermath there was palpable were among republicans. lots of them talking about how horrified they were and resigning from the administration and all of that. and there was a sense the party wanted to distance themselves from trump's lawlessness. that was then. today they are fully united as a party in opposition to the constitution. an attitude by one of the most powerful conservatives you've never heard of. he wrote portions of the heritage foundation's project 2025 on how to remake the executive branch and a trump presidency. the washington post identified him as a potential chief of staff. he lays out his vision for a post-constitutional presidency to turn the government into a flatly authoritarian project or failing that, just a mafia style. disease more control of the justice department and assert power to withhold congressional appropriations and that is just on trump's first day back in office. meanwhile democrats are not just making statements of faith, they have taken real actions to preserve those institutions and their independence. no better example of this is the prosecution of hunter biden. remember how this started? okay, back in 2018 under david weiss, the u.s. attorney trump appointed in delaware, the fbi probed hunter biden. there were subpoenas, but there were no charges and remember, trump grew angry that his justice department had not publicized the investigation into his opponents son during the 2020 election. after trump lost the election, republicans insisted president biden would obstruct justice to keep his son free and they called for a special counsel to investigate. when a new president comes and it is his right to replace any u.s. attorney they want. they usually do. biden replaced all of trump's appointees except for two. who bill barr had test to investigate the russia probe. and david weiss, who was investigating his own son. that is because the new president, at the pains of a possible criminal conviction of his surviving son in recovery, wanted no appearance of impropriety or interference and infect biden's attorney general merrick garland went a step further and appointed weiss as special counsel to make sure his work on the hunter biden case was truly independent. that was a move that republicans opposed. the house judiciary committee writing, david weiss can't be trusted. this is just a new way to whitewash the biden family corruption. after all that an appeal deal was worked out with hunter biden and ultimately rejected by the courts. weiss ended up charging the president son for an offense so rarely prosecuted that even trey gowdy, the former congressman and prosecutor, could scarcely believe it. >> i did gun prosecutions for six years. i went after convicted felons. i went after people who were fugitives from justice. i went after lots of different people who were prohibited from possessing a firearm, but i bet there were not 10 cases prosecuted nationwide of addicts or unlawful drug users who possess firearms or lied on applications. i bet there weren't a dozen, which makes you wonder of all the cases you could be pursuing in delaware, why are you pursuing this one? >> all of this was facilitated by democrats in the white house and department of justice and capitol hill to restore faith in equal justice under the law and the norms of the constitutional order. donald trump flagrantly violated the law, interfering with the department of justice. stewing when he could not interfere further. publicly calling for prosecutions. you may have forgotten that months into his presidency troubles calling federal prosecutors and cultivating relationships with them, including the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. and obama holdover who was overseeing the investigation into stock trades made by trump's health secretary. he said those calls made him uncomfortable and he was fired as u.s. attorney less than a day after he finally refused to take a call from president trump. the administration would later tell propublica, trump's personal attorney bragged about getting him fired with reportedly telling trump, this guy is going to get you. the former united states attorney for the southern district of new york joins me now. an interesting study in contrast over the past few weeks. what strikes you about the reaction? >> when you think about the biden family and how joe biden in particular thinks about his job and not just his job, but his family. upon a conviction or before the conviction, the arrest and indictment of his son, given what his family has been through, you would think every fatherly instinct would've been to protect him. if you are a father, and i know you are, you love your children more than you love yourself. you try to protect them from harm and you try to protect them from bad consequences. the biden family has suffered lots of bad things as a family and yet there are some things more important than that when you are the commander in chief and basically the president of the country and one of those things is that no one is above the law and the rule of law matters. here is an occasion as you were playing out in the intro, where joe biden had absolute authority. literal authority. he had no authority over robin bragg and did not direct the prosecution of donald trump. it is his justice department. he had the authority to direct people not to prosecute his son. he could have fired the special counsel. he could have directed the special counsel not be appointed in the first place. he could have pardoned his son preemptively. all of that conduct, given that it is his son, it kind of makes you pause and think about ton -- about how unbelievable that is. in a million years, if the shoe were on the other foot and donald trump was facing his son being prosecuted, by me if i had been held over. a biden holdover prosecutor, not in a million years with that have happened. some of the people on the right, the people who support donald trump, are trying to cast this as some clever program by which this actually proves they >> yes. i will say it is outlandish imagining don junior getting in trouble with guns and drugs, but stephen miller said this. the gun charges are a misdirection and an easy opt to sell to a quiet media that is also willing to be duped. this is about protecting joe biden and only joe biden. no matter what happens, right, the corrupt deep system is deeper than you realized. >> if every possible outcome, every possible permutation is arguably a point in your favor, maybe your position is terrible. i used a different word than terrible. >> honestly i don't even think he was required to keep david weiss on in delaware. honestly, when i say bend over backwards, that is bending over -- it would have been perfectly reasonable to replace him. obviously it would not be reasonable to say wink wink, nagy nudge. but if you say do your thing. >> by the way some other features are important to point out and you mentioned some in the intro. the jury verdict came out. they did not dox the jury or attack the judge. he did not say this is a witch hunt. he said what people say. what i used to say when i was u.s. attorney for 7 1/2 years. >> you win some and you lose some. >> we say we respect the verdict of the jury. completely opposite to what donald trump said. >> it was striking. after that trump verdict, i remember judge kaplan in the federal civil trial with e. jean carroll told the jurors, look, you can talk to the press if you want. i would advise you not to. in alvin bragg's case they did not and i think we all know the reason. they would expose themselves to harassment and possible threats and violence. here you had the jurors talking to us, which, great, am a reporter. i like it, but what a contrast. >> it is a very stark contrast and i think it goes to show that when joe biden and his supporters talk about the rule of law and nobody being above the law, they mean it. you can disagree with joe biden's policies and talk about the border and all of these things that are not in my bailiwick, but on the question of whether or not the rule of law is to be enforced and no favor given to anyone, including the son of a sitting president of the united states. the republicans are full of it on trump side and biden is not. >> he has walked the walk. my final question for you is about independence in the department of justice. we have a post mix in order. one of the things about nixon and the reckoning at a level of regulation, norms, and that schuetz was the department of justice can't just be a tool in the hands of the executive to pursue vendetta to prosecute and punish enemies to protect friends. the trump vision is exactly that and in fact, explicitly that. they really think we are going to come in and it is going to be like day one, go open an investigation on that person, prosecute them. >> what they have accused everyone else of doing. there is a great irony. one of the cases pending against donald trump, the mar-a-lago documents case in federal court in florida, donald trump steam has made a number of motions to dismiss the indictment. one of those is vindictive prosecution. there is no evidence that joe biden or anyone else directed the investigation and prosecution and indictment. by saying the things they are saying now that you are pointing out, donald trump is ironically laying out the foundation for a vindictive prosecution motion to dismiss on behalf of all the current people donald trump will be going after. he is announcing his plans before election. all of those statements and those plans, project 20/25 and everything else, will be chapter and verse and asking for those dismissals of those indictments. coming up, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and jamie raskin on the litany of scandals rocking the supreme court, but first, what we are learning about 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on the juror. it is interesting to watch folks who don't know this and to watch the various implications of being convicted of a felony and all the different types of regulations and things you cannot do. in some states it is disenfranchisement, voting, liquor licenses and the like. >> being a person of color and a former prosecutor, i am unmoved by these newfound epiphanies on the right with respect to the reality of life in america if you are a convicted felon. one thing i find to be particularly interesting is how the right is scrambling to rearrange the narrative of what it is to be a felon. think of this for a moment. you're talking about the party that planted its flag on the notion of law and order in america, now having to walk out and say it is politically advantageous for our candidate to have 34 convictions on his record. this is a narrative they are not going to be able to square, but it is funny to watch them try. >> he invited in the bronx on stage, folks who are facing charges for a broad conspiracy with people that includes moving heavy drugs and violent crime. very serious, gnarly stuff. and has them on the stage like hey, this is our thing now. >> let's be clear, you are talking about whether someone is an associate of new orleans. -- an associate of felons. the list is long. >> i think they are trying to be like, it is actually good we are felons and they don't actually believe that. >> it's amazing how much the tough on crime philosophy falls by the wayside when it is the racist game show hosts turn in the barrel. donald trump and his minions talk day in and day out about a two-tiered system of justice. he is correct that one does exist in this country, it is just he is at this tier and everyone else's at this tier. so many things no other defendant could get away with. >> including the judge and all that stuff, he would have been put in jail for sure. >> absolutely and now behind the scenes and in the open he and his maga brain trust are getting ready to exploit parts of the u.s. criminal code to go after alvin bragg, letitia james, jack smith, if he returns to power in 2025. some of this is being cooked up behind the scenes and policy papers, but so much is being done in the open. >> you've also got them moving to get alvin bragg before a committee. he will testify with the gop led judiciary committee. one question i had about all of this, does any of this matter in the process that trump was going through? >> no, it does not. >> you don't think it matters, talking about it is all rigged? does that matter for sentencing? >> donald trump's public rhetoric absolutely matters. i thought you were referring to alvin bragg going to capitol hill, which is something i think he should not do. with respect to the things donald trump is parroting in the dialogue around his case, that matters. one of the things the probation officer is going to take into account is what degree of understanding and remorse do you have? >> i screwed up, i'm sorry. >> exactly. to walk in his office and say that when you have every opportunity with the microphone in front of your face. >> you've reported on this and this has been going around the house republican leaders are privately gauging support for legislation that would let current and former presidents move a state case to federal court. have you heard any of that? >> we reported in rolling stone at the end of last month that trump had been personally calling around to different conservative allies, including republican lawmakers on capitol hill, to lobby them. when i'm back in office, wouldn't it be great if you passed legislation that is ready for me to sign to have former and current presidents be able to move their cases to federal court. >> again, i think they are getting high on their own supply. i feel like that is a bad bill to vote for. for a front-line republican member. right? i'm not crazy. >> if you are a maga lawmaker, certainly there is a cute appeal to it. it is not only moderate republicans on capitol hill saying maybe we shouldn't do this. i've spoken to cronies who are close to donald trump who have told me maybe we should not go down this route because don't we want to use state a.g.'s and conservative district attorneys to go after joe biden or hillary clinton? >> yes, the principal applying equally would hang them up. there is back and forth about the gun situation, charles. i'm sure you have encountered this. what does the law say about whether he can keep the gun in florida? in your crime. >> he more likely than not will need to turn the gun in in florida. he is going to have a grace period where that is allowed. well technically he might be in violation of the law upon notice of conviction, he is probably going to be allowed but it does not surprise me he has to turn it in in florida. >> there is an incredible thing happening which is the hunter biden conviction was about a felony conviction. he lied on forms. committing 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the opposite of pride. the alito's have not responded to requests for comment but none of what ms. alito said change the facts that justice alito allowed this to fly over his home while he sits in the highest court in the land hearing cases related to the insurrection on january 6 and sits on the court with his buddy clarence thomas whose wife was interviewed by the committee about her text with donald trump's chief of staff. both refused to recuse themselves, despite the obvious appearance of bias. when faced with an increasingly urgent question, what can be done about the out-of-control court? today democrats held a roundtable on the ethical crisis in the supreme court. i should note that one of the expert legal witnesses there was my wife. leading the panel was jamie raskin, the ranking member of the oversight committee and newark congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, the vice ranking member, and they join me now. it is good to have you on. >> thanks for having us. >> i will start with you and what the agenda was today. obviously you can't call hearings yourself as a ranking member and not the chair, but what were you trying to do today? >> oversight democrats wanted to respond to the national clamor over this crisis of legitimacy at the supreme court. so we analyzed the ethics crisis. we analyzed the political crisis around what got us into this and the blockaded confirmations of people like merrick garland, nominated by president obama to the court, and then we began to talk about what things could be done in the specific case of justices alito and thomas and generally about the ethical collapse of the supreme court. it is the highest court in the land with the lowest ethical standards. the only government officials in the land who are not governed by a binding ethics code. there is no process by which we can hold any of them accountable, so it violates the essential principle that james madison identified as the heart of our justice system. which is that no man can be a judge in his own cause. so we began to explore different avenues of holding them accountable. >> congresswoman, you said something toward the end of the hearing that it cannot be the case as a constitutional matter, as an almost intuitive commonsense matter, that they are not subject to any checks. we have three branches. checks and balances move between the positions and justice alito said in the wall street journal interview that congress has no ability to regulate us whatsoever. what should congress be doing? what are you brainstorming basically? what is the conversation about what those can be? >> of course justice alito's position is laughable in this. this idea that he can be and that the court should be accountable to nobody and that the only person they should be accountable to our themselves. this kind of scouts promise sort of set up for how we should be having ethics standards for the highest and most consequential court in the land. it is completely unacceptable and not only is it unacceptable but to have anyone of our coequal branches be completely unaccountable to the others is paving the path to authoritarianism, tyranny, the abuse of power in the united states. it is structurally, completely unsustainable. so it is not a question of if congress has jurisdiction and power over the supreme court. it is what power are we going to exercise in order to reign in a fundamentally unaccountable and rogue court? one of the beautiful things about today's roundtable is we were also able to call in one of our senate colleagues, senator whitehouse, who has been pursuing extensive investigations into the dark money network that has been exerting influence over the court and we raised and discussed varying measures from term limits to an actual binding ethics standard and also congressman raskin and myself will be introducing forthcoming legislation to even have the supreme court be subject to the same $50 gift rule that he and i are subject to, as are everyone else who are members of congress. >> that is a great point. my understanding, i was talking to my wife, kate shaw, about this. to give testimony during the hearing. she pointed out to me if i am not mistaken that things, for instance, you can get a book deal as a supreme court justice. that is allowed. but you could not like to be a partner -- that is something that congress passed a statute to say what you could and could not do, because obviously it would be nuts to be a supreme court justice and have a side gig as a lawyer. we all understand that. congress can pass statutes that say this activity is just not allowed. >> congress has a ban on outside employment and as aoc was saying, we have a $50 gift ban, so none of us goes anywhere near doing that. >> you don't do $500,000 vacations? >> that's the comical thing. members of congress don't even understand that. under what circumstance would a supreme court justice be accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars in foreign travel were paid tuition for family members or a recreational vehicle, motor stagecoach? it is outlandish for us to complicate -- to contemplate. it is like the normal business as usual at the supreme court that they are collecting millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of dollars from their so-called friends. we need to clean that up. we said we will start with something simple that the whole country will be able to understand immediately and intuitively. we want a $50 gift ban. they make $300,000 a year. pay for your own lunch and pay for your own vacation. >> that does seem quite clear, congresswoman, and also has the advantage again. there are particular issues to deal with, but in some ways the only way to legislate it or for congress to act is outlining broad principles that are equally applicable. >> absolutely and as all of us as public servants, whether it is both chambers of congress, any of us are subject to the same or similar uniform code of ethics and the fact that the supreme court, which is already unelected, at least for those of us who run for office we have to re-run for office every two years in the house. for an unelected body of nine people, appointed for life, to not have any sort of binding, strict ethics code to which they cannot only be held accountable, but which can be enforced, is actually ludicrous. and it is almost unbelievable that we are sitting here in the year 2024, over 200 years after the establishment of this country, and that we actually have not addressed this issue. it is long past doing and it is common sense. >> one of the things we addressed, chris, was how the private corruption of the justices mirrors the public corruption of justice. it is this roberts court, this right-wing court dismantling civil rights laws, civil liberties, women's rights to choose, labor law, consumer law, you name it. as they grow more and more removed from the experiences of the way the rest of us live, the more they are willing to demolish the protections. the >> there are a bunch of things that happened outside of the ap purview that you have to do with equal justice under law and i wonder if both of you would stick around to talk ul about that, is that all right? 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>> i mean, it was very presidential and, you know, he showed in his statement love for his son and love for his country including the rule of law. the different reactions between a republican colleagues and our democratic colleagues with the trump verdict and hunter biden verdict, it is just astounding. nobody on our side said that the fix was in, nobody said that it was a travesty, nobody said that the justice needs to be turned upside down. everybody accepted it. hunter biden, like donald trump, had the right of counsel which you exercise, you have the presumption of innocence, he had the right to take the stand which he chose not to do like donald trump chose not to take the stand and they have both had unanimous jury verdicts finding that they were guilty on all counts. so i am saying about that what i said about donald trump's verdict which is, they have a right to appeal and they can do that under due process, thank god we have got that in america. and we are going to stand by the rule of law and the system of justice, for the same reason that we are fighting for a supreme court that restores its integrity and reputation because we need to have that kind of confidence, not just at the trial level in federal court or state court. we need to have it going all the way up. those of supreme court justices are just a complete runaway body. >> speaking of state court in new york, congresswoman, obviously you represent part of new york, there was a huge amount of insults and vitriol that has been directed at alvin bragg both from donald trump on down and people carrying water for him, that has now escalated. he will now -- he is being called by the house republicans before the judiciary committee and be grilled by house republicans who have rallied behind mr. trump since his conviction last month. gop lawmakers are perpetuating his false narrative that president biden ordered his prosecution. what you think about the fact that they are not escalating to the point where they will call alvin bragg before congress? >> what we are seeing here unseld is an outright abuse of power in the politicization of the seats of power these republicans hold in order to intimidate the courts and exact political revenge. we have to just look at this from a basic jurisdictional point of view. alvin bragg is not even -- this is not even a federal case in the same way. we are looking at a state court. and we are looking at municipal and state courts and we have republicans who are trying to haul them in, on what grounds exactly? this is not federal court, they do not have jurisdiction over it, this is truly just and attempt at public targeting. and we see that they do this, this is in the middle of donald trump, it is in the model of invoking and trying to incite as much anger and intimidation in order for them to get the outcomes that they want. >> they are so eager to be fans to donald trump that their political judgment is off because that is not where the public is and the public understands, with the hunter biden verdict in the donald trump verdict, the rule of law is just working and they are intervening, as you say, and an estate case in order simply to placate donald trump pics to precisely, what we are also seeing here is the stark contrast between joe biden and donald trump. and in president biden, we have both come yes, a loving father who is there to be supportive of his son, but also a president who respects rule of law and is willing to accept the outcomes of the case even if that outcome is not in favor with his family or his personal outcomes. whereas, you have donald trump who takes and finances the seats of government, the seats of power, and embarks on a campaign, a political intimidation, in order to secure outcomes that personally benefit him. and that at the core is part of the sticks of our democracy that are before us today. because once rule of law goes out the window, it is not something that is easy to get back and it is very much a part of the decision that we have to make before us in the next few months. >> congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, congressman jamie raskin, thank you for your time tonight. i really appreciate it. that is all in on this tuesday night. alex wagner tonight starts now. >> we have new exclusive audio from the supreme court historical society that lauren winsor has given us and we will be playing that in the hour, so stay tuned. >> i will pick >> like i said, exclusive never before heard audio recordings of justice samuel alito speaking to an undercover
deportation. you heard the guy from jordan. you don't care about crossing illegally? he said yes, i don't care. >> dana: good reason for that. they have common sense and looking at this and picking it up for what it is. >> bill: the president is saying that republican obstruction forced his hand. only four months ago he claimed his hands had been tied. >> give me the power. this action will help us gain control of our border, restore order into the process, doing nothing is not an option. we have to act. >> bill: mary is a columnist or outkick. the newest fox news contributor. >> i'm glad to be back. >> dana: you had some babies along the way and comes with a bigger family now. thank you for being here. >> mike johnson said the
this? again, i don't think you can trust this administration to actually follow through with the things they're promising to do. >> bill: we'll see on that. secretary mayorkas was on with neil yesterday says the time is not too late. watch. >> we expected congress to act. they did not act once. they recently failed to act twice and we took this executive action. it is not too little and it is not too late. we had hoped that congress would act. they have failed to do so and the president exercised executive authority as he has done now. >> bill: some people will believe that. no doubt mr. biden will wave his new order as a shield during his debate with mr. trump this month. the political timing of the order invites voter skepticism. will the media follow this or moving on to something else? >> a question whether the media can ignore the problem and voters can see past it.
wondering what took the administration so long to move on to these executive orders, they don't flip over some of these ideas they have, many saying too little too late. a hundred markers when i spoke to him yesterday said there are reasons for that. >> weeks later congress to act, they did not act once, they recently failed to act twice and we took this executive action. it is not too little or too late, we hope that congress would act, they failed to do so and the president exercised his executive authority as he has done now. >> neil: with us now, the speaker of the house to answer all of that, mike johnston kind enough to join us out of washington. >> hello neil, great to be with you. >> neil: what did you think about of the secretary saying this is on you and the federal -- end of the republicans, making it look like a sure thing, saint donald trump stopped you tag this is why the president had to step in and take matters into his own hands? >> or what i say as this is
over. >> the world is watching. it is time for congress to act. >> reporter: after a key test vote today, the u.s. house is poised to approve nearly $61 billion in aid to ukraine tomorrow. along with billions to help israel. but the political cost is difficult to calculate. >> i'm concerned that the speaker has cut a deal with the democrats to fund foreign wars. >> reporter: a third hard-line republican, ersatz paul gosar, has signed onto a plan that could oust his fellow republican mike johnson as u.s. house speaker. the group has criticized johnson for again pushing a major proposal largely supported by democrats. other republicans told cbs news they are dissatisfied, too. do you think this is a tipping point for a speaker johnson, this ukraine vote? >> i definitely sensed that there is a souring, you know, to republican leadership. >> reporter: the defectors still won't say when they would force a vote against johnson, who defended the ukraine legislation. >> this is the best possible product that we can get under these circumstances. >> reporter: democrats
the supreme court to be hearing. if you are trump's team, what is perhaps the strongest argument that they have and then what do you think the colorado lawyers will do to push back against the argument? >> there is a number of arguments they're gonna push. therefore the focus on political questions, put that front and center, saying this issue of whether or not donald trump engaged in the insurrection is a political question. and it's beyond the reach of the court to determine, something more appropriate for the political branches. personally, i think the court is mar-a-lago to decide that particular provision of the 14th amendment, section three, is not self executing. it will coursed congress to act. that could make, potentially, a democratic congress, even if trump, one could potentially have a different determination. but i think the supreme court is looking for an out here. particularly given the makeup of the court, as you've pointed out, three of the justices were
action now. >> we can abet the cost of reckless political ploys, from the state of texas, hello. >> bottom line is this going to congress to act, we need them to do it expeditiously, we cannot have type of chaos he continues to come from the state of texas. brian: but that is what texas asking us and despite the record invokes, we see that have hoping maybe you should is welcome that the renting and rhetoric and the other white house encompass might affect me to a deal in congress after all, because with the presence of approval immigration unfolds as low as 2t the democrats are hurting, inventing and you don't know if you're there's an election coming up and it summa networks have no choice, but to really harsh reality, to their audience. >> few issues have biden administration like the unprecedented number crossing illegally from a skill. >> turning up the pressure on
action now. >> we can abet the cost of reckless political ploys, from the state of texas, hello. >> bottom line is this going to congress to act, we need them to do it expeditiously, we cannot have type of chaos he continues to come from the state of texas. brian: but that is what texas asking us and despite the record invokes, we see that have hoping maybe you should is welcome that the renting and rhetoric and the other white house encompass might affect me to a deal in congress after all, because with the presence of approval immigration unfolds as low as 2t the democrats are hurting, inventing and you don't know if you're there's an election coming up and it summa networks have no choice, but to really harsh reality, to their audience. >> few issues have biden administration like the unprecedented number crossing illegally from a skill. >> turning up the pressure on
flowing. just before the new year, the united states set up what could be's last package of military aid in ukraine. the only way to get more aid to ukraine now is for congress to specifically authorize a message that the biden administration has been hammering for weeks. here was national security council spokesman, john kirby today. >> here's the bottom line. the most effective response to russia's horrific violence against ukrainian people is to continue to provide ukraine with vital air defense capabilities and other types of military equipment. ukrainians deserve to know that the american people, in this government, will continue to stand with them. so it's critical that congress needs this momentum responds with providing ukraine with what they need to defend themselves. the time for congress to act is now. >> the time for congress to act is now. but as the white house continues to hammer that message, congressional republicans, one staunch ally of democracy, and opponents of