national security interests and threats as best we can. thanks, admiral. real quick, is there a timeline for recovery of this object? you d have to talk to the pentagon, i don t know. guys, again, this just happened in the last hour and a half and they re still assessing where this thing landed and the degree to which they can get to it. on the poland visit, i know in the statement that you put out, it says that the president is going to meet with leaders of the eastern flank countries. are any other european leaders, nato leaders expected to join the president on this trip? we re still putting the agenda together. the predominant reason is to talk to those nations who are literally on the eastern flank of the nato alliance. but i can t rule in or rule out there may be additional attendees that the president may have. thanks very much. back to lula, is there going to be any commitment to the amazon fund by the united states during this visit? let s have the visi
we can t rule that out completely. the key thing that i focused on was that apparently this object did not have the kind of connective capability that the balloon did. so that becomes a very different issue. and to what major lyons was saying, there is a big difference from an intelligence collection perspective. it actually is okay in some cases to collect the information, see how it actually talks to other entities. in this particular case you have a bit of a different situation where it didn t talk to anything, but you don t know what kind of a threat it poses except for the fact that you know it is a threat to commercial aviation. natasha, to you and the intersection of the military and politics here. i think oren s question is fair, considering that the argument to let the chinese balloon go across the country and then shoot it down, you can collect something from it, one has to