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Until you found the connections. >> the presidents own review panel that included republicans and democrats said that this collection, this vault checked has not helped us solve a single terrorism threat. so the question is it costs billions of dollars, its not effective, so why are we doing it? and it offends our values. >> governor, do you want to respond to that? >> i think its a very important discussion. i think the president today initiated the discussion that i think this country is going...