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Hair, and the texas court of appeals had ruled 3-2 that you couldnt execute or even sustain this conviction unless that hair is the independent corroborating evidence. well, a few months ago, the innocence project and the texas observer, we were able to get a dna test on that hair that demonstrated that it did not come from claude jones, it came from the victim, and that means, legally, there was legally insufficient evidence to sustain that conviction. and whats extraordinary about it is the pr...

That would have to be met of actual evidence, clear and convincing evidence that hes innocent, such that they would put the whole case aside, that really wasnt going to be met in this instance. but the real breakdown here in the final analysis is with the boards of pardon and parole. this is just not a case where there should have been an execution. and i want to point out, ed, and all the viewers who are out there should know, is that in texas, weve had two instances that illustrate the problem...