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hospital and get the care there. that s news to a lot of these guys. it s news to them because va has been hiding the fact from veterans that, in fact, in statute they have been able to send them outside of a va medical center to a dod facility, to a contract facility and if neither of those have the ability to handle at any time veterans should have been able to go out on their own on the nonva care system. they spend billions of dollars a year doing this, but they do it in selective areas. i m slow. i apologize. a lot of veterans watch this show, a lot of soldiers watch this show. they are hearing you now and saying what? i can avoid this whole nonsense because i have rights to go to another hospital if this one is telling me i m going to have to wait until like 2020 for care? absolutely. i mean, you know, you go to phoenix, in particular, and it was interesting because the former director of that facility