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Kidnap the woman, so kidnapping obviously is a charge, but extortion is a worse charge than kidnapping, so thats why i say if the guy is watching, now its better for him to turn himself in. cal ripkin and his family are not out for blood, they just want the guy to come forward, if the guy needs help theyll get him some help, but i think the guy is a local guy right up there in aberdeen and i think he just really needs to turn himself in, patti. patti ann: we have evidence the police said earlier...