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It takes effect in 2014, as you point out. for almost three years, tens of millions of americans will be getting healthcare because of that legislation. by 2016, itll be very, very poisonous, i think, to call for repealing it. by 2020 you will probably have a republican candidate who said obama care is safe in my hand. >> karen, is it me or is immigration falling off the conversation screen here for a while? what going on? >> as the presidents output there, this is immigration reform. if you lis...