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control room to pull you have a live shot of the house floor. this is happening. were about halfway through the alphabet. you see the shot of former house speaker, nancy pelosi. 14 members so far. 15 members so far have chosen somebody other than mccarthy. the vote is not final. the vote is not gavelled, however, if this holds, he will not be speaker for time number two. ali, what happens for time number three? whats the next card to play? >> thats the next question especially as you h...

Committee? lets get that person talking to the right person. lets figure out -- its an information gathering session as much anything. its used to identify what someones looking for. whats in play for them. and then maybe you can bring mccarthy in and have that conversation with him. whats challenging is they didnt know who was going to vote no and theres not one unified thing theyre asking for. whos a hard no? whos in play? bring a trusted person to talk to them about it. not just your leadersh...

And keep in mind, i want to acknowledge there are other senators, sinema among them, who expressed reservations along the way. paint me a picture. give me an idea where theres overlap here and interest. >> well, lets start with conversation versus condemnation. yes, there are elements of it that he is not thrilled with. and look, we have to inject some pragmatism into the circumstance. we have a system of government that makes this tedious. its designed to make change difficult. boy, we are witn...