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Know each other, that we share so much in common and theres so much that we can build on together, and, chuck, that gives me great hope about our ability to get our self out of this mess. >> rich, the reason i brought ben collins on, i read this report and i was heartened by this fact that, ben, the world you cover, this is -- there is incentive. there is motivation to take advantage of this fight or flight feel that people feel, and here we are in order to fix this problem a bunch of tech compa...