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They said were committing to four episodes. >> yes, yeah, right. four episodes. >> normally its 13 or eight or something. >> yes, at least. >> so we really didnt think that they had too much confidence in the show. >> we didnt think it would work, but we felt that they had to go through their process and they would learn, and ultimately, they knew better than we did. >> my mother caught me. >> caught you? doing what? >> you know. i was alone. >> the turning point for "seinfeld" from like nice sh...