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their insurance and that was not the truth. and whether you like the model of obama care or not, the fact that the president sold it on a basis that was not true has undermined the foundation of his second term. i think it's rotting it away. >> wait, there's a little bit more, "the washington post" obtaining an internal memo that shows an outside health adviser warning of trouble ahead for the rollout. telling the administration, quote, i do not believe the relevant members of the administration understand the president's vision or have the capability to carry it out. >> looking back, people are going to be scratching their heads for years going how did they make this mistake? so how do mistakes like this happen inside the west wing? >> well, look, i think that's a fairly devastating story. >> joining me now is democratic congressman jerry nadler from new york. i want to get your reaction from this from the "washington post" article in which it says a 2008 obama health campaign adviser puts the rollout this way. they were running the biggest startup in the world and they didn't have anyone who had run a startup or even run a small business or a business. it's very hard to think where the people best at getting legislation passed is best at implementing it. we've seen zeke emanuel saying this is a long game on "morning joe," this is a marathon for the social contract of our country. some see it at this moment of a sprint and even the democrats are failing. with these new numbers out about millions losing their insurance, how do you get better control of the narrative that obama care isn't the titanic? >> well, i think that the rollout has certainly been fouled up, without question. why we'll find out in the fullness of time. but that won't matter in the long run. what will matter is do people in the end get good insurance that's cheaper than what they have? and i think most people will. remember that all these things we're seeing now, all the hype about millions of people facing cancellation of insurance, these policies, many of which have 10 or $25,000 deductibles, many of which don't cover drugs and other things, are being cancelled because they don't meet the basic requirements. but most of these people, probably 9/10 of them will be able to get much better policies more cheaply on the exchanges. so that they'll have better policies more cheaply. now, they don't see that yet because they don't see the exchange yet, but within a couple of months they should see that and people should be well served. also remember that we're talking here about a subset of 5% to 6% of the people, because most people you get their insurance from medicare, medicaid from their employers or the veterans administration. none of that is affected. we're talking about the individual market. >> but this 5% still needs to be represented and not marginalized by this. let me just ask you, why aren't you and your colleagues -- >> but those 5% -- 90% of them will have much better insurance for cheaper than they're getting it now. >> absolutely. but they do not have that understanding yet because the private insurance companies, they're not really helping in all of this. let me just show the headline, sir, to everybody because we've gohow the narratives are fighting out on the front pages here. headlines out today, "the new york times" is pointing out millions are eligible for free policies under the care act but insurers are reluctant to push the option because of a costly tradeoff. ezra klein estimates as many as seven million uninsured people may be eligible for those bronze hel health plans that are free after the subsidy. and talking points memo into the lengths that the insurers are going to hide obama care benefits from its customers and in some states pressuring them to choose these new plans before the october 1st open enrollment dates. how do you encourage the insurance companies to tap into millions of new customers and recognize this is a good thing if everybody can figure out how it works. >> well, the insurance companies understand that they're tapping into millions of new customers. that's why the mandate was put in, in order to enable them to give -- to insure everybody, including those with pre-existing conditions without increasing people's rates. unfortunately, there are unscrupulous people in insurance companies, not all of them, obviously, but enough of them to be doing what they can to fool people, to get them to sign on to expensive policies they don't need. now that's mostly a matter of state regulations. some states have the ability under law to prohibit it, to fine them, to stop them and kentucky is doing that. other states don't and should get that capability. if we were operating in a normal environment, that is where the republicans as well as the democrats were trying to make the law work instead of trying to destroy it, we would pass a bill in congress quickly that gave the federal government the ability to make sure that insurance companies didn't mislead their customers and that if they did, they were severely sanctioned and fined for it and the proper information was given to people. instead we have republican governors and legislatures doing everything they can to sabotage the navigators and others giving out correct information. >> the onus has been put on the federal government to get the website exchanges up and running. >> not just to get the website exchanges up and running but to give out a lot of the information because the states aren't doing it. >> in so many of these reds states there has obstruction in getting the exchanges up and running. in states where they are running we've seen success, in maryland an also kentucky. but we continue to push through this thing together. we'll let you go, sir. new york congressman jerrold nadler. i want to bring in the host of "hardball," chris matthews. chris, it's good to have you here. the latest revelations about the millions of people that have lost their insurance coverage, that is a sexy headline. >> it's easy too. >> it's easy. but the reality is, these are junk policies that did not meet the basic standard of care and these people that are getting these cancellation notices, they didn't realize that maybe they were one catastrophic emergency room visit or crazy situation away from being bankrupt. >> i think it's kind of a normal way. suppose you've been healthy the last two or three years and nothing has gone wrong. how's your health insurance for you? >> it's great. >> if you've had cancer warnings, if you've had real terrible chronic threats down the line, you know all the problems. you've heard the deductibles, hospitalization costs were going to kill you. this is the way it's selling. but the president has a problem here. i think a lot of people like me hate paperwork. they hate having to deal with accountants, they hate tax time, they hate keeping records, and they were told you don't have to deal with the bureaucracy, you're home free. just sign that policy and you're in business all for yourself. i think people were unfairly told you get away clean on this one. in fact you'll have to join the exchanges and deal with everything everybody else does. i think that was dishonest if it was done on purpose. >> most of us all hate change when it comes to things like this where we have to amend what we're used to, even if it is for our betterment. but let me talk about the fact that all of this is taking up the oxygen in the d.c. chamber and no one is talking about the shutdown and what that cost the country. >> i think these are different -- by the way, i think these are so unrelated. i know some people have already been saying, well, this is going to show that we were right in shutting down the government. i think people see them both as problems. one is the inefficient democrats and the other is the malicious republicans that want to bring it down. boy the way, if you have cancer, who are you rooting for, the guy trying to get you help or the one that's not trying? that was pointed out by krugman and other columnists. if you have a real case or stage 4 cancer, you want the federal government to come up with a health care option that you can afford and get into, not somebody that's doing nothing. the people i don't trust are the critics that have no plan. the cruzzes and rand pauls. they don't have a health care plan. they just go negative. >> rand paul, in kentucky it's highly successful. because they put the exchange in. let's talk about "double down." this is the new book that's out by mark halperin and john hileman. there are a number of revelations including the hillary clinton swap for biden, now the search for the white knight. if romney couldn't deliver sense santorum and romney's issues with chris christie, including his health and taurdness. here's what governor christie told kelly o'donnell about the book itself. >> but the fact is that these are just two guys trying to sell a book, let's not forget that. they sensationalize things. they go to low level staff to try to get a sensational book because they want to make money. it doesn't make it valid and nothing i'm concerned about, kelly. >> nothing that he is concerned about. is he concerned about the score settling? >> it looks to me like the romney staffers who gave him all the middle level goods on him, like he overused his expense account as u.s. attorney and stayed at the four seasons instead of the days inn, who cares. clearly there was bad blood left over from the fact that he looked very good walking the beach with barack obama and that hurt governor romney. >> if all of this is true, though -- >> i think there's some irishness in here somewhere of getting even. >> we get romney talking about chris christie over the weekend on "meet the press" as a potential presidential candidate and singing a different tune. >> at this stage you look at chris christie and say that's a very impressive guy with a great track record with a demonstrated ability to work across the aisle, with support of labor and blue collar voters in new jersey. it's a pretty compelling story and there's some other very compelling stories. paul ryan, jeb bush, marco rubio. there's a long list of very capable people. but chris christie stands out as one of the very strongest lights in the republican party. >> no ted cruz on that list, no rand paul. i think, look, i have nothing against governor romney, he's probably a good man, good father and husband and all. but i think he's regretting the campaign he ran. he ran as a faux right winger. he's the massachusetts governor who was a centrist governor. i think he's looking at christie that can run the campaign he should have win. >> that would be real serendipity. christie wanted that job and romney obviously looked at him and found him too heavyweight, actually too big for the job. >> chris christie -- >> he's losing some weight. >> that conversation with kelly o'donnell. >> i had a conversation with him once where i made a stupid crack about his weight and he called me up and said i'm working on it. you can't not like a guy like that. who doesn't have weight problems. >> a lot of americans can relate to that. we've got three big races today, new york city mayor, bill de blasio against joe lhota. terry mcauliffe is several points ahead of ken cuccinelli and chris christie has a wide lead over barbara buono. but virginia, new jersey say a lot of the ballots for the heart of the republican party. the clintons are really making virginia their territory. >> exactexactly. >> but it's going to show the difference between chris christie taking over a blue state and here we go with mcauliffe where ken cuccinelli could have run away with this race. >> this is like the bonapartes making maximillan emperor of mexico. this is a reach by the clintons. they take a guy, a good guy, mcauliffe, and put him into virginia. it's an extraordinary success. he's a very likeable guy but the clintons will get a lot of credit for this. this is the first big pin on the map. we've got virginia next time. >> do you think this is the tale of where the republican party is going and chris christie will become the national story? >> i have a dog in this race. i want the republican party to return to its roots. it will always have a very hard right part to it but i think it's got to rebuild its center. i think with christie they have a good shot at rebuilding the old new york and pennsylvania and new jersey republican party, the party that used to be a centrist party. they need to have that wing up there. it takes two wings, and that centrist wing has to be rebuilt, i think. >> chris matthews, great to have you here, be sure to watch "hardball" at 7:00 p.m. tonight i get to be a guest on your show. >> tonight or very soon. my producers, we're deciding. but we'd love to have you on. >> look at that, i just got my throat slit right here on my own show. >> we want to get you after you come back from russia. we want the russia. >> he goes hardball on me on my own hour. look at that. cut right here on my own show. all right, chris, great to see you, buddy. ted cruz pays a visit to another state that could be critical to 2016. this time he's taking his lone star tea to south carolina. we'll talk to two political insiders there about what he's hoping to accomplish there. also ahead, if chris christie wins re-election tomorrow, what will that signal for his presidential aspirations and that possible run against hillary clinton? the agenda panel will jump on those topics when we come back, after i triage all my cuts and bruises from chris matthews right there. we're back after that. doesn't like being sold to. the last thing i want is to feel like someone is giving me a sales pitch, especially when it comes to my investments. you want a broker you can trust. a lot of guys at the other firms seemed more focused on selling than their clients. that's why i stopped working at my old brokerage and became a financial consultant with charles schwab. avo: what kind of financial consultant are you looking for? talk to us today. so republican fire brand ted cruz is in another important 2016 state today. senator cruz, who visited iowa less than two weeks ago, is in south carolina to speak at a pastors policy briefing in columbia. it's the same group that newt gingrich spoke to twice before he won the state's 2012 presidential primary. joining me now is msnbc contributor jimmy williams and republican strategist hogan gidley. hogan, let me start with with you. this is a smart move for ted cruz, isn't it? >> it is a smart move. i'm not going to swipe your cuts like chris matthews did in your first half of television. >> it was a small knick on my artery. it's fine. >> south carolina is obviously important to the presidential process. i spoke with some officials in the ground in south carolina this morning, i'm in d.c., and we talked about his showing, his appearance. his style is very good for that group. it's something like huckabee has done several times and gingrich has done it as well. it's right in ted cruz's wheelhouse. it's about faith. it's about tying faith to public policy. ted cruz has tried to do that many times and this is the group you want to court if you're going to make a 2016 run. in my opinion, though, i'm still not sold he makes that run. >> jimmy, earlier we heard mitt romney on "meet the press" give names out like christie, rubio and ryan for 2016. i want to play what he said about ted cruz. >> does ted cruz stand out to you as a potential light of the republican party? >> look, i'm not going to disqualify anybody, but i think i've indicated some of the names i think are most effective in becoming elected and we'll see where it goes. >> he could have started that with bless his heart, but he didn't, followed by that but that he then went into. is there a problem for cruzzed credibility and electability. >> mitt romney called his own self severely conservative, which no one believed anyway. i'm not really sure -- i could care less what mitt romney thinks about ted cruz and the 2016 elections. he's lost, he's done, go live in malibu. but my bigger point is here in south carolina don't forget gingrich only won with 40%, mitt romney got 28%. rick santorum came in third with 17% in south carolina. it's a very tricky state. you have evangelicals up in the upper part of the state. you have folks in columbia, they don't like a lot of the social issues unless you're in the suburbs and people in the downstate don't like the social issues at all. and so this whole tea party idea, it certainly is alive and well in south carolina, but it's not nearly at the levels that it was four years -- or in 2012. or in 2010, to be honest with you. so i'm not really sure what ted cruz is doing down there except for running for president, but it doesn't mean that he can get the nomination. 1980, ronald reagan, every gop nominee that won the south carolina primary, went on to become the party's nominee. that fall, except for newt gingrich. >> let's be fair to mitt romney because that killer house is not in malibus are it's in la jolla. >> i apologize. the el as a result begins in malibu. >> let's talk about the political article that claims that moderate house republicans have had it with the extreme right wing reporting that peter king says the congressional republicans need to specifically target the freshmen senator. is there really a civil war going on inside, trying to figure out who can emerge as a leader and a leader that can get people to fall in line? >> well, i'll give one defense of ted cruz with his actions with the filibuster and that's this. without strong leadership, there's a void and it allows someone like ted cruz to move forward and take that mantle. >> it wasn't a filibuster, it was a faux filibuster. everybody knew which way the wind was blowing before he started because he agreed to not have -- to not let it go that far with harry reid prior to that epic, you know, how many hours that faux thing was. >> ted cruz admitted that himself. we all knew that going in. but the fact remains he still tried to do the tactic, i don't know what it was for, we can debate that all day long. >> national press. >> i'm sorry? >> it was for national press. >> it was to fund raise. >> there's no leadership at the top to rein these folks in and say at the end of the day we have to govern something, move some policy forward. no one is doing that and that's why it's given ted cruz the opportunities he's had so far. >> we'll all know soon enough when he had a pimento and cheese sandwich when he goes to south carolina. msnbc contributor jimmy williams and republican strategist hogan gidley. the suspected l.a.x. shooter remains hospitalized and in critical condition. what investigators have uncovered about a possible motive for that attack. and edward snowden is out with a new manifesto and is asking for clemency from the u.s. why he basically says he did the american government a favor. that's next. i'm a careful investor. when you do what i do, you think about risk. i don't like the ups and downs of the market, but i can't just sit on my cash. i want to be prepared for the long haul. ishares minimum volatility etfs. investments designed for a smoother ride. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus, which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. if yand you're talking toevere rheuyour rheumatologistike me, about trying or adding a biologic. this is humira, adalimumab. this is humira working to help relieve my pain. this is humira helping me through the twists and turns. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for over ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. for many adults, humira is proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer, have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira , your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. ask your doctor if humira can work for you. this is humira at work. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. 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(whistling) following a developing story with the supreme court and abortion rights in oklahoma. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins me now with more on this. pete, good morning. what's the update? >> thomas, let me bottom line this, first of all. what this all means at the end of the day is that a strict new law in oklahoma that was to basically ban the use of a two-pill regimen including ru-486 for medicinal abortions early in pregnancy, that law will not take effect. a little more detail. the law passed. the oklahoma supreme court said it was unconstitutional and struck it down. the state of oklahoma asked the u.s. supreme court to take the case, and in june the court said it would hear it, but it sent essentially a homework assignment to the state supreme court saying we're not quite sure what this law does. will you please define it for us. last week the state supreme court said it's an undue burden on women's rights to have an abortion because it bans medicinal abortions. hearing that, the supreme court today dismissed the case. meaning the lower court ruling will stand, the law will not go into effect. it's a bad sign, i think, thomas, for similar laws in four other states, arizona, north dakota, ohio and texas, that have similar restrictions given that the court said, okay, we're going to look at this. now that they know the law is very harsh, they're not. there's another abortion case coming. planned parenthood has asked the supreme court to take up a case involving a law in texas that requires abortion clinics to have -- doctors at those clinics to have admission privileges at nearby hospitals. so we may yet have an abortion case before the supreme court this term. >> but not this one from oklahoma. nbc justice correspondent pete williams. thank you, sir, appreciate it. new details are coming this morning involving the man police say went on a shooting rampage inside los angeles international airport on friday. the suspect, paul ciancia is hospitalized and in critical condition. he's been unresponsive because of his current medical condition, but investigators say they're still learning more about why he allegedly killed a tsa agent and wounded two others. miguel almaguer is live outside l.a.x. with the details on this. miguel, good morning. >> reporter: thomas, good morning. according to a federal criminal complaint, we do know more about the alleged shooter's motive. fbi investigators say that he left behind a one-page letter, what they call -- also has been called a manifesto in which he said he was specifically targeting tsa agents. it didn't matter whether they were black, white, brown or yellow. apparently that was written inside this manifesto. he seemed to target these individuals because they worked for the federal government and he had some problems with the federal government. we don't know specifically what was in that note. that is still part of the investigation. as for the suspect himself, as you mentioned, he was shot multiple times, at least once in the head. he's in critical condition and he's been unresponsive because of his medical condition. investigators still trying to learn more about the motive today. >> miguel almaguer reporting from l.a.x. thanks so much. a german magazine publishing an open letter it says was penned by nsa leaker edward snowden in what's been titled a manifesto for truth. snowden reportedly writes that calls for surveillance program reforms justify his decision to leak classified information and he calls the u.s. and british the worst offenders. ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? 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[ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap. so later this afternoon, the senate takes up a landmark bill offering protection to lbgt people in the workplace. members have scheduled a procedural vote and a final vote is scheduled later in the week. the last time it was brought to the floor was back in 1996 and it failed then by just one vote. joining me is richard socarides, former adviser to president bill clinton. richard, it's great to have you here. newly elected senator cory booker said he's booking enda. we've got republican dean heller saying he's going to support this bill, making five republicans in favor so we're at the 60-vote threshold so no filibuster on this. three republicans who can vote in favor aren't saying how they'll too. are you surprised that senator portman is sitting on this? we know that he came out with a full-throated endorsement of marriage equality after revealing that his son came out to him identifying as gay. >> well, he may be waiting for strategic reasons that are unique to ohio, where he's from, but i would be very surprised if he doesn't support the bill. i mean he's become a great supporter of lgbt rights and of marriage equality, as you said, so i'm pretty sure he'll support the bill, along with those others that you mentioned. i think at the end of the day this bill will probably have about 63 votes. >> all right. so we've got president obama saying that firing americans for who they are is not eligible. on the huffing post he urged congress to pass it saying it's offensive, it's wrong and to stop. in the u.s., who you are and who you love should never be a fireable offense. so the gop is at a real crossroads here because this is not, as some people will level this is offering special protection to the lgbt community. basically what this is doing is saying homophobia is bs and you can't allow for it anymore. is the gop going to get on board with that because of the fact they're at a crossroads and pauft fact they're trying to reach out to millennials and engage an entire new sect of young republicans who think that lgbt rights are fair game, or do you think that they're going to miss a huge opportunity here? >> well, they are in a very difficult spot, right, because they want to broaden their appeal to young people and to different kinds of minorities, but yet they are in a little bit of a stranglehold of the conservatives and the tea party, so they are in a very tough political spot. i think ultimately the republicans in the senate will end up, a number of them will end up support of this bill, but john boehner just announced this morning that it will -- this bill will probably not see the light of day in the house. which means it won't become law, even though what we're about to see today will be historic if it passes the senate. it is probably unlikely in the house. >> but the language speaker john boehner uses, and we have part of it, the speaker believes this will increase frivolous litigation and cost american jobs, especially small business jobs. now this could have been a statement that was refreshed from decades ago. >> 20 years ago. >> from bringing women into the workplace, people with disabilities into the workplace, minorities into the workplace, racial minorities, so this is an old seems reflexive. >> this talking point. >> scare people because you're going to get sued. >> this conservative talking point of frivolous lawsuits is kind of the last thing they have left to say. i don't even know what it means, frivolous lawsuits. you can say that about any law. any law you pass might lead to frivolous lawsuits. and it's a scare tactic. there's no indication that this bill will do anything but protect people based on sexual orientation in the workplace. a lot of states and municipalities have laws like this. we do not have a federal law like this. it is very important in places where no protection exist especially. >> it's not even -- i get back it's not even a protection. it's basically a homophobia detector. it puts you on blast to know that employers can't use that as a basis to get rid of you, which is just ridiculous, and the fact that we've been having this language for all these years is even more ridiculous. and the fact that in 1996 it didn't pass because of one vote. and here we have marriage equality and we're debating whether or not this should go through and whether it can go through? >> as you know, most major american corporations already have policies like this. so you're right. it is a little ridiculous that today after all the progress we've made that a bill like this cannot get through the house, but it looks like today it will get through the senate. you know, we'll take it step by step, a lot of progress. >> richard socarides, thank you. this is our big question for you today. gay rights in the workplace. do you think the republican party will ever embrace ending discrimination against lgbt americans? you can weigh in on twitter and facebook. so sending a message. new jersey governor chris christie is poised to keep his seat by a wide margin. what does that mean for 2016 and one for the record books. just what would a christie/hillary clinton race look like? these are the topics for our agenda panel. we've got dafna linzer, david corn, the washington bureau chief for mother jones and msnbc political analyst and corey d e dade, a contributing editor for the root. dafna, we have a handful of new polls showing the lead of chris christie over his opponent. quinnipiac has the governor with 61% to barbara buono with 33%. rutgers putting christie at 66, buono 30 and many new jersey anz want him to run for president. regardless of whether you like his politics or not, he's just a likeable candidate that has this sealed up, doesn't he? >> yeah, he does. it's been a really good year no chris christie in a lot of ways. the way he came out after hurricane sandy just a year ago was very extraordinary. he's very, very popular at home. it's wonderful that some of his constituents want him to run. i think the bigger question is will the republican party and the republican party the way it is today want him to be their candidate, want him to be the face of that party. >> all right. so david, nbc's kelly o'donnell was on the road with christie over the weekend. she brought up 2016. i want to play a small portion of it for everybody. >> i'm not planning for it, i just think it's inevitable. i think people look at elections and they try to discern things from them about what they mean at that moment and what they mean for the future. and i think that what people are going to see is so unusual for what our party has created in the last couple of years, that invas invariably people will draw from it. >> so that will catch fire nationally. >> the words he's using. >> that's a message right there. >> but the really -- i think the key word in that statement was unusual. he's saying it's unusual for republicans these days to win in a blue state. that is to not be controlled by the right wing ted cruz faction of the party. and as dafna just hinted at, what we're seeing here is yet another battle, another round in the gop civil war. tomorrow, if as expected, christie wins big and ken cuccinelli loses the governor race in virginia, because he is of the far right, it will give people on the sane side, on the nonkamikaze side of the republican party an argument about where the party should head in the next two years. nevertheless, i still think most of the grassroots energy for the party is far on the root and chris christie is still going to be steering into a tea party storm. >> all right, so he's still going to be steering but we'll see him ride that wave pretty high out of new jersey. >> in new jersey. >> based on what happens this week. i want to bring hillary clinton into this equation. cor corey, new york senator chuck schumer endorsed her this weekend in a rousing speech. i want to play that. take a look. >> tonight here in iowa, and i won't get this opportunity again, i am urging hillary clinton to run for president. and when she does, she will have my full and unwavering support. 2016 is hillary's time. run, hillary, run! >> so, corey, what do you think of that? so chuck schumer is out there, and people were trying to read the tea leaves of the public schedule that hillary clinton has been keeping. but there is a lot of star power to think of chris christie on the right and hillary clinton on the left and what this means for the country. the intellectual conversation that the parties can have for the direction of our country. >> yeah, a christie/hillary matchup is a political junkie's dream, certainly a dream for us. it will keep all of us employed for at least a year. but i think that, you know, schumer coming out at this point, you know, obviously it doesn't carry -- it's really carrying symbolic weight, but i think the thinking is if enough high-profile democrats, standard bearer democrats like schumer, even though schumer sort of represents the liberal side, can sort of tacitly or blatantly get behind hillary now, the idea is it clears the field for her and it makes -- it puts pressure on vice president biden to really decide whether or not he wants to actually challenge that. i think what you're seeing perhaps is the first of many high-profile democratic stars to come out for hillary over the next several months. and if they can -- if they can turn the democratic party -- democratic primary in 2016 into a less bruising affair, it certainly keeps the party's powder dry for when they go up potentially against chris christie. in christie's case, he has -- his desired demographic actually cuts into where hillary is. >> right. >> you talk about women and moderates. >> and also in the african-american community, because i know there's a piece on the grio talking about how well he can do in new jersey based on that. >> that's right. >> and what that translates nationally. corey, you're right, it will keep all of us employed a little while later if this happens. our agenda panel, dafna linzer, david corn and corey dade. thanks so much. you can learn more about our panel on our website, thomasroberts.msnbc.com. this is a big week for us here on the show. you can follow all of this on msnbc.com because as has been talked about, i'm heading off to russia. i leave tomorrow. i'm co-hosting the miss universe contest there in moscow. you can follow by journey on a travel log. you can join the discussion on the trip, get realtime updates on twitter, facebook and instagram. use the #robertsinrussia. my hosting gig got spoofed this weekend on snl and this pic was a team decision. tell us what you think. >> hello, hello, i'm thomas roberts from msnbc. >> and i'm someone from the e! network. boy, there are so many wonderful, incredible, amazing women here tonight. >> there sure are, and then there are the contestants. >> i don't even -- >> i'm just reading from the prompter. >> okay. >> that's how i do it, i just read from this prompter. do i talk like that? 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good afternoon, we begin with breaking news from south philadelphia. chopper 6 hd is over the scene of an accident here, where according to the philadelphia fire department a car, as you can see, crashed into the police and fire credit union, you can see the damage here. it happened after 11:00 this morning and no word of injuries, but you can see the wreckage and a car crashing into the building, this is the 30th block of south broad street, and part of a brick pillar has fallen on to the front of the car. again, nobody was injured in this mishap. >> the 3300 block of south broad street, a vehicle crashing into the building and it fell on the car, amazingly nobody hurt at this point. watch for updates at 6abc.com as well. this noon, it's prison time for former olympic runner, oscar pistorius. >> the man known as the blade runner, learned his fate for killing his girlfriend on valentine's day last year, karen travers joins us live with more. >> reporter: it was a quiet scene in the south african courtroom. oscar pistorius learned his sentence, five years in prison but it's unlikely he will stay in prison for that long. >> this police officer took pistorius away from court -- >> this is just for society and the accused. >> the south african judge sentenced the runner to the maximum of five years in prison, for the shooting of his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp, pistorius was stoic. >> a huge win for oscar pistorius and it's frustrating to a lot of people. >> outside of the courthouse, the families weighed in. >> do you think justice was served? >> yes. >> they have no plans to appeal the sentence. >> we accept the jumts. oscar will embrace this opportunity to pay back to society. >> pistorius may be housed in the medical wing of this prison. the judge made it clear that she thought that the facility was well equipped to handle his medical need but he may not be there long, maybe 10 months. >> by the law, after a sixth of the sentence you can request a different type of sentence, like house arrest, whether he gets it is another question. >> the prosecution can now appeal that five year sentence and the 10 months when he can get house arrest, they have to do that within the next two weeks. karen travers, channel 6 "action news." >> thank you. now, to breaking news in delaware county, the owner of chickie and petes is offering a $5,000 reward to help find two armed robbers that terrorized employees at the restaurant in drexel hill. the surveillance video shows them entering sunday morning, they made the employees go into the freezer, one robber was wearing a chickie and petes shirt. police chief, michael chitwood believe its was an inside job. >> these are true urban terrorists and these people are lucky that nobody got hurt. >> a third man was waiting in a silver or white get away vehicle outside of the restaurant. >> they got away with $1600 and the manager's wedding rings and her purse. a woman was hit by a car while crossing the tracks in buck county. this is the 800 block of woodborn road in levittown, the woman was struck as she crossed the tracks. the west septa line was suspended while the police conducted their investigation. no word on the woman's condition or charges being filed. chopper 6 was above the scene of an accident, and a gravel truck at route 10 in honeys brook. it caused the truck to land on its side and lose its gravel. one person is in police custody in montgomery county, police were called to the dekalb apartments at midnight. there were reports of six to ten shots fired. several apartments were evacuated during the investigation, the suspect is a 37-year-old plan that lives on the third floor and he was taken to the hospital for observation. a teenager accused of being a ring leader in a drug ring, appeared in court today. them think brooks appeared in court this morning with a not guilty plea. >> timothy brooks pleaded guilty to five of the 30 counts against him. he could face jail time but his sentencing date will be at a later date. >> he left after entering a guilty plea, brooks is one of the ring leaders of the main line drug project. they were trying to take over the drug trade at several local high schools and colleges. >> he was number two, he was part of the drug trafficking ring, distributing marijuana to young people. >> he has accepted responsibility for selling marijuana, he truly regrets the poor decisions that he has made. >> prosecutors say that the pair recruited sub dealers that allegedly sold the drugs in school. 11 people were arrested in april when deputies busted up the operation. they both played lacrosse at the haverford school and then dropped out of college. the sentence calls between 9 and 16 months behind bar, how much time if any will be at the judge's discretion. >> i hope the consequences they take away, from their school and peers is that every decision has consequences. the pennsylvania supreme court has suspended a judge linked to the state's government porn scandal. shamous mcafterry call it's a lapse in judgment. the judicial conduct board is now reviewing the matter. schools in the poconos mountain district are closed after suspected cop killer, eric frein, was spotted twice, once at the post office in swift water, that led to an intense search by police, it's less than a half mile from three scores and a woman believes she saw frein on friday night. he is wanted tore killing one treerp and wounded another. a school board meeting could decide the fate of coaches at sayerville memorial high school. the state board can decide tonight whether to ban the coaches from teaching and coaching during the ongoing hazing investigation. all right, turning to the weather, a milder day, you may want to keep the umbrella nearby, from sky 6 hd from the jersey shore, a pretty picture from atlantic city, bright sunshine now, but things could change as showers move in from parts of the delaware and lehigh valley, the david murphy joins us now with a look ahead. >> you see the sunshine along the coast in atlantic city, there have been a couple of showers to the west of that shot, that have opened up in parts of south jersey, they are getting ready to push through atlantic county and into southern burlington county and in 30 minutes or less i expect that to be out of the way. it's possible that despite the facts that we are getting a fair amount of sunshine, some thicker clouds poked through along with some of these showers, it's not looking real impressive and most of you stay dry. but keep your eye on the radar into the late afternoon and early hours. temperatures right now, are not bad. we have numbers in the 60s, 64 in philadelphia and 65 in millville and down the shore, 6124 allentown. we are expecting a high of 68 several degrees above average. rick and sara when i come back in a little bit we'll talk about the possibility of these showers with future tracker 6, there is a better chance of more of the west stuff 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college and can't afford it. some other local colleges received special recognition during this special program. other nations are now joining the fight to contain ebola in west africa, and a medical miracle, how scientists used cells from his nose to help him regain the ability to walk. and david murphy has the there are 211 lawyers in congress. but not one electrician. so here's a bright idea. donald norcross. a union electrician for 30 years... in the state senate, he stood up for working families and he'll stand up for south jersey in congress. working to make college affordable. fighting to create jobs that can support a family. and pushing equal pay for equal work. donald norcross. a congressman for us. house majority pac is responsible for the content of this advertising. as a small business owner, you don't deliver anything less than 100%. so don't settle for less than 100% of the internet. only verizon fios has speedmatch - upload speeds as fast as download speeds. switch now 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about invokana®. an important recall to tell you about this noon second quarter federal safety regularliers are spreading the word about recalled airbags in millions of cars. they could possibly explode. the national highway safety administration say there are six incidents involving airbags, they affect gm, toyota, mazda, ford, mitsubishi, honda, and bmw. staples has announced they are the latest company that may have suffered a potential data breach. this involves credit card data, in pennsylvania, new jersey and new york, this follows similar attacks on target, home depot and the neiman marcus group. medical experts in poland and london transplanted cells from his nose into his spinal cord and it allowed them to connect and grow and now the man is walking with the help of a frame. now the "action news" team is working on news stories for tonight at 4:00. here is alicia vitarelli with a look ahead. >> time is running out to find a halloween costume for this year, we are here to help, coming up at 4:00, we'll tell you where to find the best deals on the trendiest outfits, and she is a nun taking home the top prize on a talent show. now she is covering a pretty unexpected song. if gets started at 4:00 and if you have not downloaded the abc news app, can you watch us on your tablet or smart phone. >> my daughter wants to be a dinosaur, i have some work to do. accuweather is coming up. meteorologist, david murphy is back now, it wasn't as chilly this morning as yesterday. >> no, it wasn't, had a little predawn rain, looking at stormtracker 6 live double scan now, we are virtually dry although areas east of philadelphia, north of atlantic city now are still experiencing a couple of showers and some of these have gotten fairly heavy and most of the heavy stuff, including a little bolt of lightning popping up north of seaside heights, getting ready to go to belmar and off the coast. this popped up in the last half hour or so, but it looks like it is scooting quickly off the coast. are you looking at a thunderstorm and some heavier downpours up the coast, going out wider again, this is what we are looking at, earlier in fa fairmount park we had cloudy skies and the dew point is 49 and the winds are light at 6 miles per hour. probably not going much higher than that today. 62 in trenton and 64 in wilmington and mid-60s down the shore and that rain is getting up towards beach haven and atlantic city. future track er 6 showing that e are on the lookout for additional showers to pop up as a spoke of energy comes through the region, however the latest model runs suggests that they are mainly to the north and west and we maintain nice conditions along the i-95 corridor and the northern and western suburbs i will allow some of this to break free because areas close to i-95 are breaking free. and action is still to the north and west of philadelphia tonight, adam joseph on phl at 10:00 and cecily tynan's forecast on channel 6, at 11:00 will show you anything that it popping. the sunshine is digging through and a spotty shower cannot be ruled out with the high of 65, at the shore i should say, mostly cloudy and a spotty shower, a fair amount of sunshine inland but the coast with the showers departing are you looking at a fair amount of sunshine, and 63 is not a bad high for this time of year. most of this will stay to the north for the day and a high of 68 and we drop to 53 tonight ain spotty shower is possible tonight and the overnight hours, for the evening commute, clouds mixing with sun and temperatures falling from the upper 60s to 61 degrees by 7:00 and we are looking at the spotty shower chance especially north and west of philadelphia, rain and drizzle for yesterday and we are looking at an area of low pressure developing off the coast as this low recedes and a better chance for showers tomorrow and maybe lingering into the afternoon tomorrow. clouds and sun today and 68 is your high season a spotty shower in a couple of neighborhoods but most of you stay dry. tomorrow a better chance of rain and drizzle, 61 is your high, and on thursday, we may still be looking at showers early and some drying in the afternoon, after that it's all gravy, 64 and breezy on friday and the weekend is looking dry and a lot of sun on saturday. >> nice. >> thank you david. >> still more ahead in the next half hour of "action news" at noon, researchers are looking at a new way to treat hyper attention disorder without drugs. those stories an ♪ attention pennsylvania residents. if recent changes to your medicare advantage plan have affected your benefits or network... maybe now's the time to make a change of your own. if you're thinking about returning to original medicare, consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. right now, base rates on the currently available aarp medicare supplement plan f will not increase in 2015. and, the basic structures of medicare supplement 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who told her story in public for the first time today. cornelius crawford is one of two men charged in the case, he was in court for his hearing, his co-defendant, jonathan rosa waived his right to a hearing. they are accused of killing a young mother and her children on july 25th, they were selling fruit and water on the intersection of allegheny, when the carjack plowed into them and the children were killed instantly and the mother a week later. he kidnapped the woman that owned the suv and sexually assaulted her. >> she told her story from the witness stand in a voice barely above a whisper. the case against them is overwhelming and the prosecution calls it a slam dunk. >> crawford sat quietly in court, the victim's relatives dissolved in tears overcome by the graphic testimony. >> crawford was held on all the charges against him and rosa is held on all the counts against him. chief among them are four counts of second degree murder. and if convicted they will spend the rest of their lives behind bars without patrol. the poconos mountain school district is officially closed after a second sighting of suspected cop killer, eric frein, law enforcement reportedly spotted frein yesterday near the post office, less than a half mile of three schools there, three days after a woman says she saw frein near poconos mountain east high school. he is wanted for killing a trooper and wounded another outside of the barracks. now the cdc is issuing new protocol for treating the ebola virus. this after two nurses contracted the virus after treating thomas duncan, it's first person to die here in the united states of the virus. marcy gonzales joins us live. >> with 53 people off the watch list, the cdc is now taking more action to make sure what happened here in dallas is not repeated anywhere else. >> after weeks of concerns and calls for children, the cdc now updating its protocols for health care workers treating ebola patients, it calls for protective gear to leave no skin exposed and hospital staff to get training of putting the gear on and taking it off. while some at this dallas hospital, they claim that under the original guidelines, nurses had their neck's exposed. the head of the cdc says we may never know how nina pham and amb amb amber vin sen. >> so no one has to endure what they went through she is one of the many being monitored. and she says vin senis doing okay getting treatment in atlanta and as pham continued her bat until maryland, a first look at what is left of the two nurse's homes after decontamination crews took almost every out, putting their belongings in barrels all removed and incinerated. >> we learn that the department of homeland security is changing its policy and will only let travelers into the u.s. through one of the five airports where there is advanced ebola screening. back to you. >> thank you. abc news confirmed that the spanish nurse that is being treated for ebola has tested negative for a second time for the virus. she contracted the disease after treating a priest and she is now declared ebola free but remains in the hospital. her dog was euthanized by authorities that feared it could be carrying the disease. the youngest nobel prize winner history will receive an award tonight. malala will receive the liberty award tonight at the constitution center. she was shot in the head by the taliban two years ago for trying to get an education. since then she is the face for equality for education for young girls. can you see abc's coverage of the liberty medal presentation on sunday november 9th at 5:00 p.m. here on channel 6. we have new information this noon on the shots fired overnight into a woman's home, a 28-year-old woman was watching television when she heard shooting outside and bullets started to fly into her living room, it happened on the 4300 block of north darien street in the hunting park section. the woman ran upstairs and saw a man outside shooting, officers later caught up to the man and took him into custody. it's not yet clear what sparked a fire that damaged several homes in frankford overnight. this is the 200 block of granite street, damage was done to apartments on the second floor and nobody was injured. a pennsylvania property inspector is accused of trying to sell items left behind in foreclosed homes. that jeffrey archer tried to sell appliances on craigslist, someone showed up to buy an appliance, and a real estate agent was there trying to sell the home instead. any victims are asked to call police. the black clernly of the fltd region came together this morning for discussions on justice, their goal is to create an action plan to address the disparities how races are treated within the justice system. nadal served as the guest speaker and is active in the case against the police officer who shot michael brown, in ferguson, missouri. this is a look from sky 6 hd, at cape may, new jersey, the clouds are rolling in and rain is on the way. here is david murphy with a look at the accuweather forecast. >> it's turning into a nice early afternoon following some sprinkles and showers in the predawn hours, take a look at a tweet picture i got from my twitter follower. jim from rio grande, new jersey. this is satellite, and what are the chances of getting another nice look at that, this is eroding a bit and it looks like for a majority of afternoon we will see out partly sunny skies and that is creeping up the new jersey coast, and it will be past places like berlin before too much longer, we are keeping an eye on precipitation in pittsburgh, 64 in philadelphia and 63 in washington and cooler out to the west. if are you headed to the play grown, it looks like a mix of clouds and sun and cloudy skies the farther north and west you go, but mainly dry, 55 by 1:00 and 63 by 3:00 and 66 by 6:00, but it will be cool, bring along a coat. 61 by 7:00 and down to 57 by 9:00 and a slight chance of a shower the farther north and west you go in the region. we'll have more on the opportunity for rain on future tracker 6 coming up. >> thank you david. a south jersey woman is the winner of the contest to pick the new lays potato chip flavor, she created the flavor, wasabi ginger, it beat out bacon mac and cheese, they all sound good. pepsico says a million votes were cast online. >> sounds good to me. >> i'm a plain potato girl. more to come on "action news" at noon, including a consumer alert on exploding airbags, we have a full report on the defects. >> david murphy has the full accuweather forecast when "action news" continues in just a moment. one of the suspected leaders plead guilty in montgomery county. timothy brooks admitted to five of the 13 counts against him. authorities say that brooks and 25-year-old neil scott tried to take control of the drug trade at several high schools and colleges. and then recruited sub dealers to sell the product. he met scott while playing lacrosse. >> he was number two and part of the 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county and now spans the coastline from belmar to seaside heights, this is moving to the north and won't be here for much longer. down by atlantic city and surf city there is not much precipitation, you may have to give it another 15 to 30 minutes like in seaside and especially belmar before you are out of the threat and rain and lightning. speaking of which, take a look at the pictures we got just in on the action cam from our new jersey bureau chief, driving through mantoloking, new jersey, ocean county, saying not only did you get rain but also hail. a big thunderstorm opening up in mantoloking, ocean county, but it's moving out in the next 15 to 30 minutes. couple of highlights, we are looking at a decent day today, especially at the shore once the thunderstorm gets out of here and a good stretch of weather in the forecast. 64 in philadelphia and winds are out of the west at 6 miles per hour, not all that strong in most areas, as we look at future tracker 6, it looks like the next 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some of this coming around philadelphia, or getting close to i-95 in the morning or afternoon. just light sprinkles, we allow for that to wrap in off the coast and the best chance to see that is in the morning. a mix of clouds and sun today, 68 is your high, the thunderstorm escaping ocean county in the next 15 minutes or so and another thunderstorm coming into the western areas later tonight. rain and drizzle but not a washout but a chance of rain in the morning and afternoon. 61 is the high there. we may be somewhat damp thursday morning and it looks like we improve during the day, a cool high of 67 and then a nice stretch of weather with no worse of partly sunny skies friday and saturday and sunshine on sunday temperatures in the 60s all the way. >> glad to hear that. thank you david. stay on top of the changing weather situation by going to 6abc.com/weather, there you'll find our storm tracker 6 radar and our hourly forecast, you can view our collection of weather related images. 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hampshire which will be a town hall, same format as sunday's debate here on cnn. dana bash joins us with the details and political strategy behind this. this basically seems like an obvious dry run for sunday night. >> one source told me it was a scrimmage. they really want donald trump to kind of retain his muscle memory from town halls. he hasn't done as many town halls as chris christie or john mccain who basically lived in new hampshire where a town hall is part of the political tdna there. but the fact is they want him to be in an intimate settic just like on sunday night. they have chosen the place where chris christie had his first down hall when he announced for president in 2016. and chris christie is involved in trying to get donald trump ready stylistically for the idea said, explicitly to me and others that what made him success flfl that debate. he had the practice. one texted me as it was going on last night, practice practice, it matter. i spoke to a source familiar with trump's debate strategy and i said are you going to fly some of pence's people into trump tower to help him and the answer was of course not. they could not be more different. what difference would it make? it couldn't matter. >> and hillary clinton is taking a liter schedule and focussing on debates. >> gre. she's doing what she did before the first debate. the debate team now has shifted back. i will say that trump's schedule is clear on friday. he's not going campaign and he's going to be prepping. >> stay with us. i want to brick in the rest of the panel. the fact that trump is doing this, essentially run-through town hall for those who said he didn't prepare enough it will certainly i assume come as good news. >> i think so. look, i think inside the trump campaign there is a sense that donald trump needs the practice. and that the only way to get him to focus is to actually have this dry run or scrimmage, as dma is calling it. and i think it could really help him. however we're all going to be watching it. don't forget. so he's going to be judged on this town hall before he does the one on sunday night. and it doesn't work with donald trump to say be like mike. that is not going to work with for him. so he's going to be donald trump. >> how concerned are you that a town hall format might not be to his greatest strength? >> i think the moderator is going to be a concern on sunday night. he's tough. bold. brash. anderson cooper is going to be there he's going to be tough on donald trump. he's going to be tough on anybody but think what people don't remember in the process is donald trump did a lot of town halls. in salem, some in london the day before the primary. won in rochester, new hampshire. in iowa. donald trump did one in virginia on monday with the veterans. this has been a consistent message. who most people are accustomed to are large scale rally wills donald trump talks for 40 minutes. and hopefully what you are going to see is donald trump at his best interacting in a small environment one on one with those people and really answering their questions and really hopefully getting a head start, if you will on what the questions are that will be asked on sunday night. hopefully the same concerns people have sunday night will be addressed tomorrow night in new hampshire. >> and as a trump supporter are you worried he's not taking enough time off in advance of this debate? >> no i think friday is good to take that time in the mock town hall tomorrow is good. the veterans town hall. he just had that on monday. he does very well in this format. i think back to the commander ner chief town hall. where the consensus is donald trump did better. they were upset that hillary clinton, how she appeared in a town hall. he did well because of the simple fact he likes people. he's got at engaging with people. take hillary clinton. she seems to hold in contempt anyone who disagrees with her. so i think he likes people and engages with people in a real way and hillary clinton does not. >> is there consensus among republican there is a donald trump needs this debate? needs to do much better? >> yes. 100%. 110% if that is possible. amongst republican whose like donald trump, those who don't. those who are his nearest and dearest say he needs do better. and that means saying on the message of what he wants to talk about as much as possible and don't get into a tit for tat with hillary clinton as much as he tries to go to him which is tlo question he'll try to do again. >> there is till zoing to be tit for tat. but whether it is on policy or. >> her terms or his. >> or her terms. how concerned are you ? the stakes are high for hillary clinton. she comes in with wind at her back but the pressure is on to keep that going. >> that is right. and i think expectations manage at this point. i agree with the first part of what she said. there is a format that works good for donald trump. he does engage people really well. i think hillary clinton depending on the person it can be hit or miss. so i'm concerned there is a question that comes up and she comes across as guard order protected and that is normally when she comes across as not likable. i will say i've seen several videos where she's been in the town hall and gone very very well. essential things are on her side and that is all the more reason i think the clinton campaign and clinton supporters have a lot more to worry about. >> i would agree. and the clinton campaign and spoupporters across the board should always be concerned. that is how you win: the lead nationally in every battleground state now especially in ohio, i would say to clinton supporters, don't believe them. get out and vote and mobilize and make sure donald trump never gets to the white house that is basithe only way that will happen. and anything can happen. i actually agree with corey. i think this town hall format will be good for donald trump because it can keep him boxed him. he won't have a teleprompter or notes but he'll have the kind of parameters of the moderators, the people in front of him that i think will keep him much more managed. >> or at least i think that is what the campaign hopes. >> if the king of town halls is john kasich. >> he did more than a hundred in new hampshire. >> he emotes and hugs people. he was great anyway in that format. i actually disagree with you guys. i think that donald trump has had some difficulty at town halls. and you have done them with him. he doesn't address the the person directly. he turbid and talked to you. didn't seem to embrace the person who asked the question or ask that person more questions about their question which hillary clinton does really well. and your town hall, one of the key moments so far for hillary clinton is when she said she's not a natural politician and said that at a town hall. donald trump has not sort of oured part of his personal self. in any of these settings. even when people were asking for it. and i think that is a difficult part for him. doesn't want to share that way. >> we're going continue this conversation with the panel in just a moment throughout the evening. of course the two human resouou on. on sunday starting at 4:00 eastern time. as corey mentions it'll be ducking out for a bit to actually moderate. and our cnn live coverage duets under way at 4:00 eastern time. and just ahead eric trump on whether his dad pays federal income taxes. and the line from last night's debate that became a head line and what latino voters are saying about it when we continue. federal income tax for ulta 18 years. we did talk with dana bash and here is the answer he gave. >> has your father paid federal income taxes. >> we pay a tremendous amount of income taxes. >> federal income taxes. >> yes. and beyond taxes we also employ tens and tens of thousand os people. >> eric my question now is he has paid federal income taxes over the last 15 years, yes or no. >> of course. absolutely. my father pays a tremendous amount of tax. we vas a company pay a tremendous amount of tax. >> if we ever see your father's federal income taxes it will show -- >> no question about it. he pays federal income taxes. >> for some this puts the answers to rest. few people have dug deeper than --. i spoke to him earlier this evening. when eric trump insists his father had paid federal income tax, based on your reporting over the years are you skeptical? >> well i'm not really sure anderson what anything is that eric trump has sceeen. i think both of the trump boys tend to get their father in hot water whenever they speak up on these issues. i think the returns in question go back, you know, two decades. and eric trump is i think his early thirties. so i'm not really -- i doubt that his father was showing him all the tax returns when he was a toddler. that being said, i think one of the interesting things that's dwo gone on in this debate off the "new york times" story is that there is a lot of focus on the legality of this massi ivive deduction he took. in fact the writeoff represent an epic business failure. it is i think representative of about 9 hundr$9 hundred million of loans he guaranteed personally in the late 1980s and all of it, all of it ended up in a giant train wreck. he bought airlines, hotels. he overleveraged his casino business. and he ended up with a ton of debt he couldn't repay because he overpaid for properties. he didn't think far enough ahead about the prospects for the various businesses he was entering and classic donald trump decision making. he's actually a very undisciplined, short-term, non strategic thinker. and that writeoff is a big numeric emblem of that tendency he has. >> you know, obviously trump could put all of these questions to rest by releasing his tax returns. he says he won't release them while he's under audit even though there is nothing preventing him from doing that. and by his lawyers own admission his returns from 2002-2008 are no longer under audit. >> and by the way anderson the trump campaign has not given any proof to anyone they are actually under audit. they could release the letter interest the irs showing that to be the case and they haven't. secondly, even if there were an audit -- and they haven't made that clear -- that would prevent him from releasing anything. that is just not -- all of the audit stuff a red herg. >> as somebody who was sued by trump for writing that he wasn't as rich as he claimed he was -- a suit that was dismissed by the way -- how much does something like that actually bother him? >> i think it bothers him immensely. for all his bluster and bullying and bragging, he's immensely insecure about some very fundamental things. and one of them is his sense of himself. and he -- his net worth and how rich he is, and where he figures on the pecking order is much more important to him than it is to anyone else. no one cares about his wealth as much as donald trump himself carries about it. >> appreciate it you being on. thanks. still plenty of questions out there. back with the panel. dana you had that conversation with eric trump. does that settle anything? or does it raise more questions? >> no. i think questions that were out there remain. there was only so much time and there were a wloft unanswered questions even as he was answering the questions. one of which frankly looking back i should have been specific. personal income taxes or income taxes or maybe the obvious is he said he'd seen them. did you see the check, how do you actually know he paid the income taxes? it was his knee jerk reactions as the son of somebody who's under fire to try to put it to bed by saying yes because that was the only answer seemed like he could give. but we don't know. >> donald trump, even him not releasing the actual return, the full returns which are obviously very large has eric trump pointed out in the past. he could just ak a knowledge one way or the other whether he did or did not pate personal income tax as result of this writeoff. >> he did release a statement saying i paid hundreds of millions in -- taxes. federal taxes was part of that. i think this whole "new york times" story is emblematic of the reason he shouldn't release his taxes. they put on a headline that says donald trump could have not paid income taxes for 18 years. since when do we have speculatery head lines with no basis to make that fact other than the fact there is a loss claim on a tax form. there is no proof me didn't pay taxes. why would you release hundreds of pages that could be misconstrued by the media. >> he could release his information. what he paid and made and charitable contributions without releasing all pages. >> i think it is irrelevant at this point. the issues that are affects american people today -- job, immigration, their own personal tax, burden of washington d.c. regulations. look if people want to dwell on donald trump's taxes, they are welcome to do that. that does nothing to set the agenda moving forward. and what we do know is 11% of people think hillary clinton is honest and trust worthy. and 55 points in the wrong direction if you think the country is on the right track or the wrong track. the american people don't carolina -- they care about jobs and safety. >> they are so tone deaf when it comes to these issues poll after poll, multiple majorities of mesh people. trump supporters. believe wurm number one stacks are the civic duty and people should pay them. and above 70% believe he should release his taxes. and put legality aside. it is unseamly when you have a multi billionaire who touts his business ak meyou men and how rh he is every 18 seconds and then there was a news article today how about back 1978 and 79 he did a lot of losses so not just he didn't pay taxes but his business acumen is. >> if you want to buy the argument he had a good accountant and he didn't have to pay taxes. a question is where are his investments? what potential conflicts of interest are there with foreign governments? particularly since he's said i'm going the hand over my business to my kids. and they will still be running that business. these are the things that would be outlined in a tax return. not just the bottom line and not the charitable and all -- these are serious foreign policy issues. i think the public deserves answers. >> on that point certainly. but there is at point and that is, this is the same person who's called for transparency from potential opponents from this opponent. he's asked for wall street transcripts. he's asked president obama whechbs just thinking about a run for a birth certificate. so why would not not meet the very staple standard. one of the famous lines is he's not even meeting the nixon standard. >> donald trump said in the first debate he'll release his full tax returns as soon as hillary clinton releases 33,000 e-mails. very clear. and more over he did call for hillary clinton to release her transcripts from those wall street speeches and she refused to do that as well. where she's made 10s of memos from executives. if you want to see donald trump'd holdings. go to elections and commissions and poult the piece of paper with the properties he owns and the -- >> there is a lot of -- >> totally different. >> -- not in those documents that would be in the tax returns. >> yes. no question about it. the federal -- the financial disclosure has some information. but not nearly as much as you would learn by what he pays or doesn't pay in taxes with with regard to hisregard to his company. >> if hillary clinton, if none of her tax information was out there, wouldn't the trump campaign or any opponent be raising lots of red flags about that. >> i think congress has put in place laws that suggest what we complaint expect of someone running for the highest office in the land. you fill out financial disclosure furm. donald trump did that. we have a law that required her to keep the e-mails that she disobeyed. one candidate has violated transparency laws. and thaz hillary clinton. >> nub of that has been proven. >> it has been -- >> no no -- [inaudible]. >> -- by a -- continue to say there is no law that donald trump has got to release his taxes. but the fact of the matter is that again for 40 years this has been the standard. and the american people expect that. for all the reasons that we just talked about. the most important one i do believe is what gloria mentioned. when you have someone who we know has a very strong bromance with vladimir putin and you have somebody that we already know has connections with chinese banks who owe, who actually own the debt that he holds. and he is asking us to give him the position of commander in chief when he would have the ability to pass laws and to be favorable -- >> -- [indiscernible]. >> -- [inaudible]. >> i know you ignore the fbi director when it is not convenient -- >> sure. 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>> aliens who have come into this country illegally and perpetrated violence and taking american lives. >> -- >> he also said and many of them are good people. you keep leaving that out of your quote. >> that mexican thing sparked a lot of discussion. joining me -- your reaction to what the governor said last night about whipping out that mexican thing again? >> well what can i tell you? i giggled a lit bit because i thought it was a weird phrase. for a while i thought maybe anthony weiner had gone crazy celebrating national taco day which was yesterday. but when he was part of the republican conference he was a very compassionate man who supported and spoke up in immigration reform. so i give him the benefit of the doubt. but most of america doesn't know mike pence. and only knows him as donald trump's running mate. and whirn the running mate of a man who's spoken about mexicans and said some are rapists and said this things about mexicans for 16, 17 months now. somebody who's attacked a judge for being of mexican heritage. an indiana born judge. from the state that mike pence represents you don't get the benefit of the doubt from most americans and we've seen it turned into a hashtag, a rallying call for a lot of latinos. >> do you think it is actually going to hurt him in the latino community? look at the latest national polling on the latino hispanic vote. donald trump winning 17% of likely hispanic voters. and secretary clint 65%. that was before the debates. do you think this hurts? >> i'll be the first to concede we're not doing great among vote oefrs color and by the way the republican party hasn't finish me wlex cycles so this is hardly now donald trump. >> it has done better in years past. >> what matters to me as an hispanic is he went down to mexico and i thought acted very presidential when he met with president nieto down there and he said that the mexican american community is a treasure to the united states. e we need and we love legal immigration. and no one by the way is mored a versusly affected by legal immigration than legal immigrants. they are the ones most cheated when we say it is okay illegals to hop the line and get in front of them to. we are going to get control of our border. we love immigration. he's the son of an immigrant. married to an immigrant. we know what immigration does to the united states in terms of culture, vitality. but we've been right as a people to do it through legal means. >> and there are only key states with largely hispanic populations. it is not monolithic population by any means. is it possible the way governor pence handled donald trump's statements on undocumented immigrants how he pivoted away from trump's cross-talk about conservative deportation that might help some conservatives vote for trump. >> there are some conservative latino voters but they are the huge minority. the very small minority. i came to this country legally too. i came by plane. i did it legally. but i also understand and i think most latinos have the empathy to understand that but for the grace of god there go i. i came as an eight-year-old girl. but could very well have been a dream ad girl. had not my parents not had the money to hire lawyers and make me legal the way they did. i could have been one of those girls who found out when they were 19 and going into college that i was illegal. but for the grace of god i realized that wasn't the case because i was a lucky and fortunate one. but because this campaign has preyed on latinos, has preyed on immigrants. has made it a pillar of their campaign to attack hispanics and attack immigrants and make it one of the things they stand on they don't get the benefit of the doubt. and -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> -- donald trump has made it so since june 16th when he first announced and called mexicans rapist. it wasn't me, steve. it was donald trump who went on the attack against mexicans from day one of this campaign. >> steve go ahead. >> what you are doing is you are trying to make the illegal immigrants the victims. they are breaking the law. the victims are not illegals. people who break our immigration laws, people who come here in a way not allowed by our laws. the victims are the american people. >> steve, anna is talking about language that your candidate, the candidate you are supporting has used when you hear some of the lack she's used, do you have any problems with it? >> anderson i'll be the first to say particularly early in the campaign i didn't like the tone. and i think he alienated some hispanics unnecessarily. i think we're doing our very very best to win them over now and try to convince voters of color whether hispanics or african americans that the democratic party has taken you for granted and pandered to you whether it is illegal immigration or schools or economic opportunity and what we are saying is we have a better way forward for you. and part of it by the way for legal hispanics is that illegal immigration is a non start are for us. >> okay. i got to go. >> and -- >> there is a reason why your hispanic advisory council has shrunk every day. they are ashamed of the words donald trump has used and you should begin by not calls us voters of color and understanding that african american, muslims, hispanics we are all different people with different priorities and -- >> mike pence and tim kaine will both be on new day tomorrow morning. a closer look at the impact gary johnson and jill stein can have, my conversation with ralph nader next. smoked chicken, bake fresh foccacia and hand-slice avocado. there's nothing "or something" about it. ii'd look her right in that fat ugly face of hers.age. she's a slob. she ate like a pig. a person who's flat chested is very hard to be a 10. does she have a good body? 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[indiscernible] . are you supporting any particular candidate this president -- >> no because what i would like do is comment favorably or unfavorably on what they do or say. >> if as the choins between hillary clinton or donald trump do you see much difference? >> of course. but they both flunk. the country deserves a lot better. a failed gambling czar who became a corporate welfare king that's cheated his way to a billion dollars. >> and the secretary clinton. >> more wall street, more war. a hawk that scares the generals. the libya disaster. she over raid gait whose didn't want to top teple the regime in libya because of the chaos. >> what will you do on election day if you don't like any candidates? >> there are third parties and there are write ins. >> you know the argument about spoilers. you have called the whole idea of a spoiler candidate as the politically bigoted word. >> the two major party candidates never call each other spoilers. it is only directed to a third party candidate who is considered someone who takes votes away. if you have equal right to run for election, then we are all trying to get votes or so we're trying to spoil one another or none of us are spoilers. >> there are some folks watching the polls and saying that hillary clinton is having a hard time getting some millennial voters who were -- you i peel to back then who are also went for president obama. if gary johnson or jill stein are taking votes from hillary clinton but don't have an actual chance of getting into the white house themselves, aren't they by defense spoilers. >> not at all. why don't major candidates take away votes from johnson and stein. -- in the 190s, he took away some of his platform. so this idea of scapegoating. whining, constantly whining in instead of the democratic party looking at themselves in the mirror. they have been fiddling in the house of representatives trying to assemble all the bad republican votes they passed in the house. they still haven't come out with it. >> so if donald trump won on election day and it is a close election you don't think or hillary clinton won, that the third party candidates would have had anything to do with that. >> not when they are at one, two, three percent. and they are both going to shrink from the present polls. they will be lucky to get 1 or 2%. >> in. so states they are doing double digits. >> there are all kind of sine que non. like in florida. 300,000 registered democrats voted for bush. the secretary of state with her shenanigans. the butterfly ballot misidentifying thousands as exfelons, taking away their vote. the supreme court decision selecting 5-4 george w. bush. there are a lot of seen sine que nones. >> and i would be surprised if by pushing gore he made critical comments on corporation, oil companies and stronger on the environment that he got far more votes than whatever would have -- >> you actually think by being in the race -- >> yes. when you are at that small level percentage that we were. just a surge of getting out the vote in wisconsin because they thought that the green party was nibble away at them, you know, ensured them gets wisconsin. >> do you think about how the world would be different had you not run in 2000. >> i think the result would have been george w. bush. there was a poll right after the election. without me in it and he won it. but look how crazy it is, anderson. we have an election where gore won by 550,000 votes national and the electoral college took it a way from him, this crazy electoral it's scapegoating at its worst. the democrat party doesn't want to look itself in the mirror and ask itself, why isn't it land sliding the worst republican party in history and defending the country? they don't want to look at those. they're dialing for the same commercial dollars. >> thank you very much. >> you're welcome. coming up, breaking news. after battering the caribbean and killing ten people, hurricane matthew heads for florida. we'll get the latest. hrimp. and try as much as you want of flavors like new parmesan peppercorn shrimp. just come in before it ends. i'm jamie foxx for verizon. in the nation's largest independent study by rootmetrics, again, verizon is the number one network. hi, i'm jamie foxx for sprint. and i'm jamie foxx for t-mobile. 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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. group. he didn't say he spoke to the department of justice or the state department. he's not speaking to any other gun control groups, but the president took to twitter to say i have reached out to the nra. so those of you who have chanlted over and over, drain the swamp, walk us through -- >> why you would go to the industry group. >> why would you contact the largest lobbying group ever, the nra, on what to do about the ghost gun. >> as of last week, one of the organization's videos called 3-d guns freedom and innovation. tom costello has more on the guns and why the president should be checking with his own state department rather than the nra. >> this morning, growing pushback against a new type of firearm that some people can actually build in their own home. eight attorneys general now asking a judge to block a texas company from publishing the downloadable instructions for 3-d printers to manufacture guns. from handguns to semiautomatics made of plastic and without a serial number, the guns are untraceable and undetectable. able to pass through most metal detectors. >> welcome to the age of the printed magazine. >> 30-year-old cody wilson is the face of a new gun movement. >> gun control is not dead. it's undead. gun control is undead. >> the obama administration took wilson to court to stop his company from posting the instructions online, arguing it would put guns in the hands of terrorists. but cody wilson insisted he has a first amendment right to publish, and the instructions were already online anyway. in june, the trump administration dropped the court fight with wilson. >> as long as you have a right to keep and bear arms, you have a right to make them. >> fred's 14-year-old daughter jamie was one of 17 people why s high school. >> this changes the safety of americans forever if this is allowed to happen. >> plastic guns, he fears, will bring more gun violence to a country already reeling. >> someone could walk in with a gun and you won't know it. airplanes, you'll be flying with someone with a gun, and you won't know it. courthouses, someone with a gun and you won't know it. that's the risk. >> okay, let's is a look at what these 3-d printed guns are. conventional gun manufacturing requires a permit and all guns produced must bear a serial number so they can be traced if stolen or used in a crime. but with 3-d printing, there's no way to enforce these laws. components can be printed without any oversight and any record keeping. the site offers files that allow users to print palmer components on demand, so now to build a gun, you don't need to purchase industrial machine working equipment or have special expertise. among the firearm components on the site are plans to print a full baretta m-9 handgun and the lower receiver for an ar-15. you won't be able to print the entire rifle due to printer limitations, but you can present out several key components that allow the designer to fire 600 rounds continuously in a test earlier this year. this is real. and more concerning to lawmakers is the liberator. this was the first weapon designed by the group posting the plans. it's a single hp shot polymer weapon. the only non-3-d printable parts are the ammunition and a small nail that's used in place of a firing pin. up here. all right, some lawmakers worry the guns run afoul of the undetectable firearms act of 1988. the designer put a small metal piece into the handle of the first liberator, although he said it was out of goodwill and others aren't obligated to do so. joining us now is avery gardener, co-president of the brady campaign, a gun control advocacy book. >> some people are saying this is just a novelty item and there's no reason to fight back that hard against it. it's just one simple gun. it's not a semiautomatic weapon, but if this thing is cleared and people can suddenly print this, where could we quickly devolve to? >> people who are saying that this is only about one kind of gun are mistaken and misguided. center, has a keen interest in the case because we filed a brief in the fifth circuit as an amemes, and they did not reach out to us before they came to this settlement. we didn't hear from either the department of justice or the department of state. and that's one of the really troubling things here, is why this settlement, why now? as recently as april, the government maintained that putting these plans online was a threat to national security and international peace. >> so what -- >> we have no idea what changed. >> what do your contacts at the state department, i'm sure you interface with the government all the time, when they made this settlement which now is done, it's not like you can put the toothpaste back in the tube, did they give you any rationale? >> not only did they not give us any rationale, they didn't even give us a heads-up it was coming. we learned about it in the press like everyone else. the next day, we sent a freedom of information act to the government asking about the documents in the settlement, who was involved in it, who made these decisions, what were the facts that changed that caused the government to do a complete 180. now, they haven't gotten back to us yet. and if they don't get back to us in accordance with the statute, we will have to sue the trump administration again to get these documents. we think the public has a right to know, but as you say, it's probably going to be too late. >> the guy who's doing this, corey, he's wrapped himself up in the constitution on this one. he calls it a first amendment expression of his second amendment rights. now, obviously, this is something you come up against a great deal. there is a second amendment that allows some gun usage and ownership in this country. what's your response to that argument? >> well, first of all, we have absolutely no concerns about safe, responsible americans owning guns and having them stored safely in their homes. i grew up with guns and i don't have any concerns about most americans having a gun in the home. the issue comes when we're talking about dangerous people having guns in the home, and courts have held for generations that there are some people who cannot have a gun because they are too dangerous. rooul. i was just finishing a ride. i felt this awful pain in my chest. i had a pe blood clot in my lung. i was scared. i had a dvt blood clot. having one really puts you in danger of having another. my doctor and i chose xarelto®. xarelto®. to help keep me protected. xarelto® is a latest-generation blood thinner that's... proven to treat and reduce the risk of dvt or pe blood clots from happening again. in clinical studies, almost 98% of patients on xarelto® did not experience another dvt or pe. xarelto® works differently. warfarin interferes with at least 6 of your body's natural blood-clotting factors. xarelto® is selective, targeting just one critical factor. don't stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor, as this may increase risk of blood clots. while taking, you may bruise more easily, or take longer for bleeding to stop. xarelto® can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. it may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. get help right away for unexpected bleeding or unusual bruising. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. before starting, tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures and any kidney or liver problems. learn all you can... to help protect yourself from another dvt or pe. talk to your doctor about xarelto®. works. capital gains are profit from sale of property or stocks. currently, we tax capital gains by the difference between the purchase price and sale price of an asset. the sale price is called cost. and current rules allow for investors to recoup that sales price, the cost. the cost is taxed at a rate of 23.8%. if you invested a cost of a million bucks in 1990 and sold that asset for $3 million this year, you would only owe the tax on the difference. that's $2 million. your tax bill would be $476,000. well, the treasury department could change the definition of cost when calculating the capital gains. allowing for investors to account for inflation when determining their tax liability. the same investment of a million bucks in 1990 would now have a cost of about $2 million in today's inflation adjusted dollars. that means the investor would only owe half as much, $255,000 in taxes. compare that to the $476,000 without adjusting for inflation. a difference of $220 grand, and that's tax dollars the treasury department loses out on. this kind of change could result in an estimated $100 billion in tax savings for wealthy investors. it would also dig into the treasury even deeper, the hole they're already in from the last round of tax cuts, which again, mostly benefit the wealthiest americans. and ali, we have to slow that down. we're not saying this hurts the american worker. but it doesn't help them. >> doesn't help. it might hurt them because if you reduce tax revenues, then everybody comes out and says we have to cut this and cut welfare and cut social services. it in fact could hurt them, but it's broadening the gap that we're trying to narrow, right, between the rich and poor. >> the president rails against trade deficits and he basically ignores budget deficits. >> he doesn't seem to care. >> the treasury department is in a hole because the tax cuts from 2017 are still not paid for. there's this republican idea that if you cut taxes, it's going to spur growth. even if it spurs some growth, not enough, the corporate tax cuts thus far have not trickled down to the american worker. in large part, they result in stock buybacks. who does that serve? the share holder. who does capital gains adjustment serve? the share holder, not the american people. >> our entire tax system is based around preserving money for the wealthy. work labor gets taxed more than wealth does. if you have assets and you have capital gains, your tax rate is lower than if you just work for it. this is just a perpetuation of a problem we had for a few hundred years in america. it's supposed to be getting better, it's getting worse. >> it's not a new idea. larry kudlow has liked this for years. what's stunning is it's what the president campaigned against, much like when he said he was going to close the carried interest loophole, yet miraculously, it stayed in the tax system, and yet here we are again, and it's just -- it's certainly a gift to the donor class. all right, next, what happens when the republican president picks a fight with the party's most powerful donors. we were just talking donor class. president trump just called the koch brothers a total joke on twitter. we're going to explain why the kochs are so important to the gop and why trump is slamming them anyway. all right, and good news for the first time ever barbie is wearing a hijab. she's models after an american olympian and fencer part of the idea to diversity the american line. >> love it. your hair is so soft! did you use head and shoulders two in one? 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this weekend, koch network leaders distances the organization from some republicans and president trump calling trump's tariffs wrong-headed. the gop spending horrifying, and a separation of families at the border abhorrent. in fact, charles koch even told the reporters he could be open to working with democrats in the future, saying, quote, i don't care what the initials are in front or after somebody's name. his network also announced it would not support a republican candidate in a close midterm race in north dakota, saying he's inconsistent on issues that matter to the group. uh-oh. if inconsistent is a problem the koch brothers have, they ain't never going back to trump. >> time to talk about the koch brothers a little bit. let's take a closer look at exactly who they are. charles and david inherited the second largest american company from their father in 1967. today, charles is at the helm. david stepped down in june, cited health problems. the two are worth an estimated $120 billion, according to forbes. the brothers organized their own political network back in 2000 threne, an assembly of libertarians, libertarian leaning people, rich business people, advocacy groups. each has agreed to contribute at least $100,000 annually to koch linked groups. now, this network has shaped elections for years. even being called more powerful than the republican national committee. in 2012, it spent $122 million on elections. in 2014, it was up to $129 million. and by 2016, the presidential election, an estimated $250 million. and it's upping the ante for the 2018 election cycle. pledging to shell out $400 million on politics and policy. it's already spent $20 million promoting the gop tax cut plan. who gets all this money? well, republican lawmakers, super pacs, community groups, colleges and universities, people running in judicial elections even get money from the kochs. the network is even backing the confirmation of judge brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. right now, the network says it's engaged in races in six states. the green ones are senatorial races. the yellow or gold ones are gubernatorial races. spending hundreds of millions of dollars in an attempt to sway the midterms in favor of vulnerable republicans and their policies. >> joining us now, rick tyler, republican strategist and co-founder of the foundry strategies. i'm deg it start with this. why? you're what? >> i couldn't swivel. >> why don't we push your chair right up. >> a different table. >> okay. we'll start again. >> why is he doing this? i mean, the koch brothers. i saw laura ingraham last night calling the koch brothers elitists. >> the idea that the kochs are a joke is sort of laughable. >> that's what jokes do, you know. >> that's right. to get a sense of who the kochs are, they're probably the most successful entrepreneurial family in world history. worth about $120 billion. i'll bet this set has materials made of the kochs. i bet you slept in a mattress last night with materials made from the kochs. i bet you fill up your yacht with koch fuels. they made a myriad of products that we use every day. so they made a lot of money. if you go to the met on 80th street here in new york city, there's a beautiful fountain. it has the word koch on the fountain. why? they give money to lincoln center, to the met. >> i think they're new york's biggest philanthropists. >> they are, which makes me think about the trump foundation. what is it? under investigation. >> now, they have always been sort of demonized by the left. harry reid made a famous statement on the floor saying, citing the koch brothers. and the reason is that it's political. the koch brothers spend hundreds of millions of dollars on elections. it's interesting. they're now willing to withdraw from a key senate race in north dakota not because of politics. they're going to eschew political expediency for policy. their policies are they're not social conservatives. they're very libertarian. they believe in free markets, and they do a lot of things to educate the public on free markets so people will understand why they should be voting for candidates that are free markets. but when the party abandons its principles and you can see this where they're upset about in the world of free trade and tariffs, they're saying no, we're going to abandon political expediency and stick with our principles on free markets. >> did they really think it's li likely they would work with democrats and the democrats would work with them? they have been demonized on the left. >> we talked about this two days ago. hat is that donald trump in many ways is backward thinking. right? he has this appeal to the remaining segment of a market that says we can bring back coal jobs and manufacturing. and all these things -- >> no jobs of the future. >> no jobs of the future. the kochs are all about the future, and their idea is that innovations, yes, they're hard, and they disrupt industries, uber is a great sense of that. even the technologies in politics today are disrupting politics. you can see that with the russian investigation, the way we campaign and target people. one of the most laughable committee hearings i ever saw was with mark zuckerberg. >> and they were out there talking about the use of the facebook. >> they were talking about it. so let me get this straight, mark zuckerberg. you target people with advertising they would like to see, and what mark should have said is, just the way you target people who are most likely to vote for you. they all use data. >> so the left hates the kochs. the kochs hates the left. is there really chance they're going to work together? >> they have proven it. they have shown that we are not about supporting a political party blindly. i think this is a huge opportunity for democrats to figure out how to embrace and train for the jobs of the future, and juxtapose that against trump's building up legacy companies. that's going to be tough for them because they have unions around manufacturing and coal mines. >> you think any democrats are going to pick up the phone and say, hey, chuck and david, how are you doing? >> i don't know, but money talks and elections are expensive. if you have a multibillionaire who wants to talk about the future and jobs. why wouldn't they be for it? >> money does talk. i wonder if it will be talking in paul manafort's case today. >> back to the top story, three-d printed assault rifles. these assault rifles would be unregistered and untraceable. we're talking to one of the attorneys general suing to stop the plans from being posted. and supreme court justice anthony kennedy is officially leaving the federal bench today. justice kennedy served more than 30 years on the supreme court since 1988. for three decades, he's been the man in the middle, often casting the deciding vote on a split court. unlike most other justices, he did not hold ridged views. he usually sided with the right side, but will be remembered for his progressive stance on same-sex marriage and up holding roe v. wade. brett cavanaugh is in serious meetings this week. you're watching "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. could help them save money on car insurance? yea,that and homeowners, renters, motorcycle and boat insurance. huh.that's nice. what happens when you catch a fish? gecko: whoa. geico. more than just car insurance. see how much you could save at geico.com. i'm ok! ruhle." a gun control conversation was turned on its head this week when a group posted several files that allow users to 3-d print guns or gun components at home. >> now, eight attorneys general and the ag of washington, d.c. are suing for temporary restraining order to block the designer from continuing to post the blueprints for firearms and their components. the president tweeted that something his own state department essentially allowed does not seem to make much sense, in the president's words. at a news conference just a short time ago, democratic senators agreed with president trump. >> joining us now is massachusetts attorney general mara healey, one of those attorneys general suing to stop the plans from being posted. attorney general, good to see you again. thank you for joining us. what's the goal of the restraining order given the administration already dropped its lawsuit? on what basis are you able to go in there and get this changed? >> well, this is a terrible settlement by the trump administration. and we speak at the chief law enforcement officers in our states. our job is to protect public safety. and the reason, ali, that we're suing, is because this is a terrible, terrible turn of events, what the state department and trump administration have done. what they have done is essentially entered into an agreement that allows this company to put and post online plans for folks to download plans to make guns. and you know, this is a matter of national security. it's a matter of public safety. we're suing to stop this from happening because we have the responsibility of protecting the public safety within our states and certainly share in the national security interests that the state department once agreed with and argued for. >> the images, the plans, have already been downloaded several thousand times. at this point, what can you really do about it? >> there's a lot we can do. our job is to keep dangerous guns away from dangerous people. i think any law-abiding gun owner will tell you that they don't need to be able to print a gun at home. you know, we need to make sure that two things happen. one, that the state department immediately rescind this settlement and withdraw the rule that would allow these plans to be published. and two, we need congress to act. i'm heartened to see congress talking about this today. my office led a coalition of state a.g.s to advocate for that reform and action at the state department and by congress. and i think most people around the country would be really concerned and outraged to know that what the trump administration has allowed to happen, is allowing to happen unless they change course, is for somebody to walk into staples, to buy a 3-d printer, to go home, to look up this company online, and with the push of a button, download and make a plastic gun. a gun that's untraceable, a gun that can't be detected by metal detectors. can you imagine what this might mean in terms of public safety and also national security? because this would allow criminals and terrorists to basically manufacture, make their guns at home. it's a real problem, and that's why we're demanding action. >> congressman seth moulton and senator bill nelson have put bills forward to get this dealt with. have you had a chance to review those bills and do you think that's an answer? >> no, it's absolutely a step in the right direction, and i support the work of congressman moulton right here from massachusetts as well as the senators who have come forward with proposed legislation. i'm sorry that it's come to this. again, i saw the president tweet, but we need not a tweet. we need action. this is within the president's control. if president trump cared about this issue, cared about national security, cared about public security, he could immediately order his state department to rescind the settlement agreement and to withdraw the rule that's going to allow this to happen. so we first need action out of the state department, and yes, i hope congress acts immediately. >> but are you even encouraged by the president's tweet? in the tweet, he says i have spoken to the nra. the nra is not the state department or the department of justice. it's the biggest special interest group out there that's pro-gun. >> you know, stephanie, it's why we're in court orn this and why in fact state a.g.s are in multiple courts right now as we speak. seeking relief in the courts, asking for an order to stop this company from making available these downloadable files. it's what we're doing right now through the courts. that's where we need to be, i think we have seen time and time again the importance and the role of state a.g.s taking this president and the administration to court in order to get relief. here, it's a matter of national security and a matter of public safety. >> mara healey is the attorney general of massachusetts. thanks for joining us to talk about this. >> well, great to be with you. again, this is an end run around all the basic gun laws in our state and we think it's really important. >> we're going to keep giving it lots of attention. when we come back, is president trump being dissed by the united states' biggest foes? up next, how north korea and iran, north korea and iran, are responding to trump's attempts at negotiation. spoiler alert, you're not going to like it. >> and right now, we're also watching a hearing on migrant families separated at the border. the senate judiciary committee is meeting as we speak, grilling customs and border protection agency officials. and that brings us to our monumental american today. he stood up for civil liberties in his own time. ralph lazo. >> he was born in los angeles back in 1924, and was irish-mexican descent. when he was 17 in world war ii, he learned his japanese american neighbors were being forcibly taken to internment camps by the united states government. >> in protest, he voluntary entered one of those camps. the only known non-japanese american to have done this. lazo graduated high school at the camp. he then joined the military and helped liberate the fill means and was awarded a bronze star. after, he earned a masters degree and taught and mentored disabled students and mobilized hispanics to vote. he also raised money for a lawsuit related to internment camps. >> it was intended to discourage the similar injustices and violations of civil liberties in the future. he died in 1992. if you have a monumental american, tweet us at "velshi & ruhle." 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>> no. no preconditions. they want to meet, i'll meet. any time they want. >> within hours of those comments, "the washington post" released this reporting. that according to u.s. spy agencies, north korea is working on new missiles. here to break all of this down with us, bloombergfore affairs analyst bobby gosh. let's start with president trump and his foreign policy flip-flop game. he created this big hullabaloo in north korea, no more threat, and now this. i'll meet with iran, no conditions. two hours later, mike pompeo says conditions. what gives? >> when the president ad-libbed there's usually a pushback from the white house saying, no, what he actually meant was -- and then completely reversing what he said. we're seeing something of that from pompeo. or what pompeo says makes a little more sense in the larger narrative. if you're going to tear up the nuclear deal, it makes no sense then to go back and say there are no preconditions. there have to be preconditions. if there are no preconditions, why tear up the deal? with the north koreans, i think it's inconceivable anybody is surprised at this. throughout this entire bizarre sort of extended kabuki theater that we have with the north koreans, all kinds of people who professional north korea watchers and people who pay close attention to their nuclear program said over and over again, guess what, so did the north koreans themselves. they're not giving up their nukes. they did talk about slowing down and maybe giving up the nuclear missile program. the fact that the u.s. intelligence agencies are now reporting they're still doing it and not just doing the missiles but doing the icbms, those are designed to strike the united states. >> they can hit the east coast. >> the east coast, guam, remember the whole thing last year when everyone went into a wild panic because they thought there was a north korean missile in the direction of guam. that facility outside of pyongyang, that's designed to make those kinds of missiles. if there's activity in that factory, that's a bad sign. >> so president rouhani of iran made this statement to a british ambassador earlier today on his official website. quote, after the u.s.'s illegal withdrawal from the jcpoa, the joint comprehensive plan of action, which is the iran deal, the ball is in europe's court in the limited time remaining. it seems like he was given an easy one by donald trump because if he says i'll meet with you any time, maybe the response should have been -- >> yeah, i think he missed a trick here. they could have called the president's bluff. rouhani is not really the man in charge, the person in charge man charge, the person in charge is the supreme leader. it would have cost rouhani relatively little to say, okay, if there's no preconditions, we'll meet. >> is that a danger to the world, the president puts so much stock in talking to everyone as opposed to using the state department and established negotiating channels that can be had at every level of government. when the president now goes to these places and says things, do guys like kim jong-un and vladimir putin same, i don't know if you mean it and you're going to change this in 24 minutes or 24 hours. >> absolutely, and that's what rouhani said. there are plenty of other people in the iranian establishment saying, we can't take this seriously. >> but ali, bobby, show me something the president has done that has hurt any of these authoritarian leaders. when he's faced with another bully-style leader, he folds. when he says he's tough on russia, it wasn't him, it was congress' sanctions. what has he actually done in relation to any of these countries that's actually hurt them? >> we have one week to find out. on the 6th of august, the sanctions on iran go back in place. that's why rouhani said there's a limited time left. it doesn't seem like there's anything europe can do it, the sanctions are going back on. and the iranian economy is in a bad way, the currency is in a tailspin. the iranians do have their backs to the wall. but when they have their backs to the wall historically, they don't respond with sweet reasonableness. >> bobby, good to see you as always, thank you. trump's trade wars are hitting one state particularly hard. today we're in wisconsin where at least five industries are reeling from retaliatory tariffs. how this could affect you, the consumer, next. the line between work and life hasn't just blurred. it's gone. that's why you need someone behind you. not just a card. an entire support system. whether visiting the airport lounge to catch up on what's really important. or even using those hard-earned points to squeeze in a little family time. no one has your back like american express. so no matter where you're going... we're right there with you. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it. don't live life without it. if yor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn't worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. on u.s. dairy products. mexico has been the number one market for those products. likewise, china slapped 25% tariffs on u.s. milk, cream, cheese, and yogurt products. it's all added up to big losses for dairy farmers and huge surpluses of dairy products. >> nbc's vaughn hillyard joins us now from plymouth, wisconsin, which is known as the cheese capital of the world. all right, vaughn. walk us through this. >> reporter: good morning, stephanie and ali. to be clear and be frank about this, the dairy farmers' message to us over the last few days has been very certain. it's president trump, keep going, we need you to come through for us, we need these deals to be renegotiated, we need these markets open. we've been out here and talking to these guys who president trump, over the last months, recall, has been saying he's waging this trade war on behalf of. it's consistently called out canada for high tariffs on u.s. dairy exports and he says he's going to bat for them. what's happened, though, is that these farmers are losing the markets they already had from the likes of mexico and china. i would to introduce you to dairy farmers just down the road from here. for 28 years, you guys, they've been selling their milk directly to the cheese manufacturing company sartori cheese who is the one finding those export markets. 10% of their cheese goes overseas. when sartori struggles to find export markets, it's their price that goes down because the demand is not there. there's oversupply of milk in the u.s., there's more competitors like almond and soy milk alternatives. these cow farms are getting better at getting higher yields. i want you to hear how scott said he's supportive of the president's effort but he needs the president to come through. what concerns do you have about the dairy industry now in the months ahead, years ahead? >> you know, everything's got to shake itself out. and we just went through some tremendously low prices. some people are going to fall off on this, that financially aren't going to be here. there's other people that will. trump just got done with the european nation. that sounded very positive. the way it sounds, mexico wants to come and talk real seriously. and i really think this tariff think is going to be shorter-lived than -- i originally thought it would be six months. and i think that's going to get shortened up here by a ton, because now all of a sudden everybody is talking, maybe we should sit down and do some fair trade. >> reporter: what would be your message to president trump right now? >> keep doing what you're doing. it's working. some people maybe don't think so. but i really think it's working. >> reporter: they need, scott and paulette need the president to come through for them. there's 9,500 licensed dairy farmers in the state. 1.3 million dairy cows. wisconsin, it's not just cheese. harley-davidson has announced they're going to be moving manufacturing operations overseas. this is the highest cranberry producing state in the country. 30,000 people work in a paper industry that's also been hit. soybean, corn, beef farmers as well. wisconsin is the target here in this state, guys. >> great reporting, thanks very much, vaughn, good to see you. vaughn hillyard for us in wisconsin as he's been all around this country. this is time when we usually hand off to one of the great living legends of television news. she never wants to hear praise so we're just going to say it. it's a very special day, it's andrea mitchell's 40th anniversary with nbc news much. >> she started working here when she was 4 years old. andrea started at nbc news back at 1978. a year later she was named the

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A roundtable ensemble discusses and debates the day's news. work. one of the reasons is because the messaging by the democrats and the unions was really good. they had one of these ads that showed workers get paid an average of $8 an hour compared to -- this is what ceos get. it was effective messaging. some of the things we talk about up here in new york, big picture -- we are not releasing what's happening on the ground and some of these places. >> jesse: that is right. also talking about branding. ben jealous, very upset. he's running for governor in maryland. former naacp director. he was asked about being branded a socialist for his republican opponent, and this is how he responded. >> not to put too fine a point on it, but do you identify with the term socialist? >> are you [bleep] kidding? >> jesse: while. >> greg: i think i would vote for him just for that response. it was so natural. i would say to your point, ivy league educated, but his policies on immigration are so neanderthal that i don't know how he can possibly win and i don't know why the president chose him. probably because of loyalty because kris kobach came in and helped him craft's draconian immigration policy. >> greg: why do you have to pick on the neanderthals? >> jesse: we have some sound from danny boy, as president trump likes to call him. i guess almost eked out a victory in ohio 12. this is what he had to say about nancy pelosi, candace. >> will you vote for nancy pelosi to be your speaker of the house? >> no, i won't. we really need the leadership. because what we see in washington, as was demonstrated last night, the same old politics aren't working. >> jesse: they are running candidates in certain places, candace, that are trying to distance themselves from nancy pelosi. >> candace: that is a smart move on and that's why i think he had such a successful campaign. on the right, we had to be careful in ohio. it's been a close call. we don't know what's going to come of it. the smartest thing you can do is distance yourself from the extremists. distance yourself from nancy pelosi, elizabeth warren, maxine waters, who is calling for violence. that's the only way they are going to be able to salvage the democrat party. look, the thing i was watching last night was the democratic socialists. i was happy to see that it crashed and burned in the core of the candidates that alexandria ocasio-cortez endorsed, nothing happened. that was a compelling story. is that where we are going to g go? 100 million deaths to the last 100 years to socialism. it turns out, america, good news. most of america understands basic math and no, everything cannot be free. >> geraldo: i like the platform. i have to say i love $15 an hour minimum wage. why not? how do you live with eight bucks that's just to get more people on the latter. student debt. we are giving too many loans out. we are making it easy to go to college. now we have these people. college, let's face it, is overrated. it really is. it's expensive. and it's overrated. now it's becoming -- you have all these kids that are basically enslaved to campuses. it's nuts. i am a neurotic. i plan for the worst. i don't see any encouraging news for republicans. i don't come out of what happened last night. i think if you want to win, prepare to lose. that will make you fight harder. >> dana: part of it is the funding. steve stivers, chair of the national republican committee, says we can't do this for all of you. they pulled out all the stops. >> jesse: they put 4 million in that a while race. >> dana: at least. that doesn't count independent expenditures. not to mention the travel and time of pence and president trump. if the president is going to come campaign for you, it's a huge investment. you have to figure out how much time as they actually have to be going and doing rallies everywhere for you. you've got to do your work. you've got to figure out a way not to be outspent by the democrats. >> jesse: let's say things don't go as well as the president thinks they're going to go. there's no red wave and maybe the democrats have a one or two vote margin in the house. if he's out there campaigning 6 to 7 days a week and he doesn't keep the house, how will he frame the issue? how will he explain what happened? >> geraldo: before he does the explaining, the problem with the republicans losing the house of representatives is that they will move immediately to try to piece the president of the united states. i believe that. even though i am very progressive. i've invested in this president. i want him to survive and i hate the idea they're going to short-circuit his term or attempt to. it's going to be a gigantic distraction from real problems. >> greg: it's also going to create massive unrest in america. 66 million people, knowing that you are stealing elections because you didn't like the results. >> dana: there is another thing. let's say they don't move for impeachment, as pelosi has said they won't. there is another road for president trump and it is something you'd be very good at, which is to say i did all he could. the media and the lame republicans who couldn't raise enough money and campaign well, they lost. but i can get things done with these guys. i'm a dealmaker. let's do infrastructure week. let's finally get it done. there's another way. bill clinton did that in 1994. his reelection was quite good. if what you really care about is president trump getting reelected in 2020, losing the house is not the worst thing that could happen to you. >> jesse: and anti-trump liberal mayor gets a free pass after attacking the press. greg calls out the hypocrisy next. alice is living with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of her body. she's also taking prescription ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women with hormone receptor-positive her2- metastatic breast cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole was significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus letrozole. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. before taking ibrance, tell your doctor if you have fever, chills, or other signs of infection, liver or kidney problems, are pregnant, breastfeeding, or plan to become pregnant. common side effects include low red blood cell and low platelet counts, infections, tiredness, nausea, sore mouth, abnormalities in liver blood tests, diarrhea, hair thinning or loss, vomiting, rash, and loss of appetite. alice calls it her new normal because a lot has changed, but a lot hasn't. ask your doctor about ibrance. the #1 prescribed fda-approved oral combination treatment for hr+/her2- mbc. prepare for your demise, do your worst, doctor. i will. but first, a little presentation. hijacking earth's geothermal energy supply. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. his occult >> greg: new york city miller bill de blasio spoke to the guardian, a crazy left british newspaper. it's basically no different than de blasio talking to himself. crazy stuff comes out of his mouth and people with butterfly nets make a circle because the loonie bin might be the only place left for de blasio and his make-believe politics. that was a lot. he told the guardian if you could remove news corp. from the last 25 years of american history, we would be a more unified country. would not be suffering a lot of the negativity and divisiveness we're going through right now. we went to the mainstream media for comment on this blatant attack on the press. [crickets chirping] only on "the five," ladies and gentlemen, bill de blasio, when was the last time you gave this towering piece of politics a thought. he thinks america would be better off without us? what he is really saying is he would be better off without us. but he's wrong. even without america's most-watched news channel making fun of him, other progressive still shun him. he has 7 feet of political invisibility. it should be easy to pretend de blasio's dumb ideas don't exist but if that were the case, millions of people would be better off. you can't beat leftism for burning humanity, and that's why they hate us. we point this out while doing our best ignore him. brian seltzer claims it's not about the media at all but i media empire. we get it. run along. okay. de blasio is the mayor, he's not the president. >> dana: but he wants to be the president. that's what i think this is all about. he is a term limited lame duck. this was right around the time when in iowa, democratic hopefuls started going trying to basically send out a signal. and attacking leaning publications is a way to do that. where did he learn that? president trump has been very effective with it. i don't know if it will work for de blasio. i assume not. i think he's wading into bigger fights. he wants to pick a fight with uber here in new york city. he needs some reason to get national coverage. >> greg: candace, double standard? they are talking about fox, not a big deal. everybody knows what fox is. it's not like cnn. >> candace: is not a serious question? this is what we are seeing all the time. we can do it, but you can't. the left loves this. they've been the usual silent at cnn this week. they were silent. but they spent all of last be crying about jim acosta in the "cnn sucks" chant, which they kind of do. it is par for the course. this is the number one network for the reason. nobody cares what de blasio thinks. >> greg: geraldo, i was going to ask you a question but i can tell you are about to talk. i can see it. >> geraldo: my fists clenched. >> candace: you know de blasio. one is >> geraldo: was always impressed me about de blasio is that for all his dominance of local politics, new york mayoral politics and local politics, he has zero national appeal. zero charisma. when you compare him to bloomberg or giuliani or ed koch before that. he's a giant guy and it he has zero appeal. he doesn't move the needle at all. i don't think he has any future in the democratic party. he really has it out for fox news. we have pressed parking. 48 years in the business. i've always had and why people he spit i always park in front of my shop. i worked at abc, nbc, i did talk shows, cvs. he took nypd parking away from fox news they still have it at nbc two blocks up. they still haven't cvs for box up but he took it away. >> greg: it's an outrage. geraldo lost his special parking place, america. jesse, have you lost any preferred parking? >> jesse: i need to know how to get those nypd place. segment go by without talking about the obvious degradation of the city? i have lived here seven years, almost eight years. in the last few come you can really see a decline. every day, you see it more. >> greg: the thing is, it's because nobody wrote to new york. 20% of the people vote. >> dana: uber didn't cause the homeless problem. >> candace: i was shocked to the other morning. there are so many homeless people. new york city was cleaner years ago. >> dana: people deserve to be treated better than that. >> greg: it is all geraldo's fault because of the deinstitutionalization. i am blaming you, geraldo. >> candace: not with that democrat policy. >> greg: you will get a better parking space. run as an independent. >> geraldo: john james should campaign as a democrat in michigan, even though he's a republican. he should be in detroit. he should be in flint. >> greg: why wouldn't you run as an independent? >> geraldo: because i don't want to. my time has passed. >> dana: that is not true. >> geraldo: i want to get in my hammock and eat putin. >> dana: your agents are crying. >> greg: crazy story out of new mexico. details next. hey there people eligible for medicare. aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company comes in. this type of plan helps pay some of what medicare doesn't. and these are the only plans to carry the aarp endorsement. that's because they meet their high standards of quality and service. wanna learn more? 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>> geraldo: the thing i think of, i think of my muslim friends and think about every time there is one of these cases. extremist muslims with air fifteens and compounds in planning school shootings. my dad, proud puerto rican, came here, and everything there was a big crime, he would hold his breath until the perpetrator was identified, hoping it wouldn't be a puerto rican. because it would disparage the whole community. i feel awful. i want to emphasize they had candidates running. one is going to be the first candidate of the congress in michigan and all that. in terms of the extremism, these are not jobs. narcissistic, paranoid, crazy militant people. i don't know how they existed that long in the new mexico desert before someone complained about them. this complaint, as i understand, it came from family services in georgia. it's a very disturbing, awful story. i am sorry about the 3-year-olds. i hope the others can get over the scars that these monsters inflicted. >> candace: my initial thought is not to defend the religion of muslims. it's a strange reaction we are seeing more and more, particularly on the left. to say that islam is a religion of peace. i think it's an important dialogue we need to have come especially in this country when we start to have conversations about bringing in refugees from regions of the world that are against the american culture. i understand he is from brooklyn. in general, we are talking about bringing refugees, we are talking about extremists. this guy obviously is extreme. i wouldn't do what you did and defend it. i hope there's a wider conversation because god forbid they did not stop this. what would be the consequence? how much is it being bred here and why and who is coming over here and teaching this sort of indoctrination? there's bigger questions that need to happen. terrible story. definitely following it and see what happens. >> dana: the idea of school shootings as a form of terror. we have covered a lot of school shootings on the show. there's always a question, was this terrorism related. often it turns out not to be the case. by the idea that school shootings are form of terrorism is an interesting one. >> greg: there are no silver lining to this other than the fact that it was stopped. but we are hearing fewer and fewer of these things happening. that to me, is encouraging. but i don't want to relax. i feel extremism will be a around as long as humanity is around. you are bound to have a few extremists. one person can inflict incredible damage. we always have to be cognizant and not be afraid if we do see something to say something and not go after people who actually do say something. and who might be wrong. i think that's what keeps people from reporting things, they see something, say something. but if they do something that they get in trouble. this case is an example that these mind-sets exist. >> dana: thankfully the authorities were able to save the kids. >> jesse: hats off to law enforcement. they saved countless lives. not only the children for potential victims of school shootings. i can't believe this guy is the son of an imam who was an unindicted coconspirator in the '93 world trade center bombing. how many unindicted coconspirators have there been? it sounds like there is dozens. why are they unindicted and why do they keep popping up? these sons, uncles, everything. the family tree is poisoned. this guy is a huge red flag. i glad they finally nailed him. >> dana: will bring you more information as it becomes available. two nfl hall of famers take a stand against kneeling. will protesting players listen? for the past five years, i've spoken with hundreds of families and visited senior-care communities around the country. and i've got to tell you, today's senior-living communities are better than ever. these days, there are amazing amenities, like movie theaters, exercise rooms and swimming pools, public cafes, bars, and bistros, even pet-care services. and nobody understands your options like the advisers at a place for mom. these are local, expert advisers that will partner with you to find the perfect place and determine the right level of care, whether that's just a helping hand or full-time memory care. best of all, it's a free service. there is never any cost to you. senior living has never been better, and there's never been an easier way to get great advice. call today. a place for mom -- you know your family, we know senior living. together we'll make the right choice. you know your family, we know senior living. no mathere are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. are you in good hands? 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"i'm not going to denigrate my flag, and i'm going to stand for the national anthem. what is the top side? are you not going to stand up? this is our country, man." adding that he respects the players and coaching great 20 agrees. >> my dad was in the service. that's why he thought. he enlisted in world war ii to give us the choice, the freedom of choice to do what we think is best. these guys are not unpatriotic. they're not standing against our country. they are standing against -- kneeling against what is wrong in the country. >> geraldo: candace, what about that? what about coach tony dungy? >> candace: i was happy to see this. i am seeing more and more of this. nfl protesting is starting to stop them and we are seeing more players stand up and say they are not going to participate which means people are starting to think individually, which is what i preach and practice everything all day. the problem with these protests is obvious. it was built upon something that wasn't true. if you're going to stand up for something and you say it's police brutality and shootings, 2016, only 16 unarmed black men were shot and killed by police officers. the total is .0004% of the black community impacted by this. they are kneeling when you talk about welfare programs or absentee fathers from all the other problems. that's what i took issue with. why would you pick this issue? that's my problem. >> geraldo: what about freedom of speech and the fact that, as coach tony dungy said, the players have a right. they are not doing anything to disrespect the country. they are doing it to point out some of the problems candace seems to think are inflated. >> jesse: i think they have freedom of speech off the field, on twitter, if they want to come on gutfeld's show are espn or a podcast and they can say whatever they want. once you are wearing the uniform of the owner and you are standing there in the field, not your field. that's the company field. he can't do whatever you want. you can be sanctioned for that. you can be fined, told what to do. they regulate what we do here at fox news. i think it was the wrong thing. it backfired. they realize that. kaepernick has faded. the tide is turning. the cowboys player that came out, i thought that was strong. that is moving the needle. the debacle with the philadelphia eagles going to the white house changed a lot of people's minds. hopefully it's calmed down and we can have a nice, good nfl season. and the eagles can repeat. >> geraldo: the browns can't do any worse. they have baker mayfield. maybe a good future. i worry about president trump, dana, and this issue because -- and even the way he takes on -- when you call players names. i worry he doesn't use the same tone when he's criticizing white guys for doing white guy stuff. >> jesse: did you ever hear what he said about john mccain? >> dana: he doesn't have a problem going after people. >> geraldo: you don't think there's a problem? >> dana: i think people remember the insults more than they would remember the fact that there's a good economy or things like that. i think it's counterproductive for president trump and the players who are kneeling. at this point, no one's thinking, as candace was saying, it's not about the original idea for the protest. shannon sharpe took a lot of a bridge of what jim brown said. one of the things he wrote was that movements are team efforts, and the players doing the student asked jim to be part of it. said he's disappointed in him and -- >> geraldo: shannon sharpe is disappointed? >> dana: says i believe you are doing activism for pay. it has exacerbated within the black community. i like the football season. i don't know a lot about it but i enjoy the culture around it. i hear that the broncos have a good new quarterback. >> geraldo: pretty good. are you a big football fan? >> greg: i used to play pro ball in the '70s. >> geraldo: you were the ball. >> greg: good one. pulling out on this topic and why something like this in general is refreshing, it's why old guys are refreshing. they remind you of an old-school mentality that seems to be fading. >> geraldo: are you talking about me? >> greg: jim brown commits like this kind of -- when he is talking, your time traveling to another era where men were stoic and laconic. there was less navel-gazing and emotive analysis that you see. we put a lot of importance on being well-spoken, but there is a certain masculine minimalism from the boss boss to be 70s in '60s. guys just did stuff. they didn't say stuff. that's the difference between brown and the modern-day adult. he -- you just stand up. just stand up. that's how old guys think. we are missing that. >> candace: they were men. that's what's changed. men were men back then. >> geraldo: i hate the fact that politics has infected sports. >> greg: i hate how it has infected "the five." >> geraldo: find out what sparked a barbell blowout at the gym. that's next. not so cute when they're angry. and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ why people everywhere are upgrading their water filter to zerowater. start with water that has a lot of dissolved solids. pour it through brita's two-stage filter. dissolved solids remain? 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A look at the latest news and headlines of the day features discussions of politics and culture, analysis of political correctness in Campus Craziness and... good chemistry. but i can tell you, there is been no missile launches no, rocket launches, we got the hostages back. [applause] and we didn't pay $1.8 billion in cash for the hostages. [applause] there's been no nuclear tests. and they say what's taking so long? i said, for 40, 50, 60 years, during the nuclear age, 25 years, you've been working and nobody complained about the fact that president obama was unable to do anything with north korea and he considered it, read the papers, you'll see what he considered it. i've been three months, i have a he picked up $44 billion. he told that to the press, he didn't report it. $44 billion. and then i just left recently, and we're going to pick up at least another close to $100 billion extra. i said to him, you got to pay your bills. the united states is paying close to 90% of the cost of protecting europe. that's wonderful. i said europe, folks, nato is better for you than interest is for us. believe me. and what happened is they asked a question. they have small countries, big countries, all of these countries. we're supposed to protect them. i said look, it's very simple. you got to pay up. you got to pay your bill. somebody said, sir, there's a president of the country calling me sir that, shows respect. i say yes mr. president. have been ripping us off, in brackets. treated the nato leaders with tremendous contempt and disrespect. i said no, no, no, they disrespected our country, they weren't paying. [applause] now they're paying. how about if we got into a c conflict because a country was attacked. we're in world war 3. we're protecting a country that was attacked and didn't pay its bills. i feel so stupid. we're protecting a country that wasn't paying its bills. i got them to pay $100 billion, it's going to be much more than that. tremendous amounts of money. tremendous. they got to pay up, they're paying up. and then they made the statement that i showed great disrespect. but actually, i have a great relationship with all of those people, 28 people, all of them. we have a great relationship. now they respect us. they respect our country again. they didn't respect our country. they didn't respect our country. [applause] they respect us again. and you see it with china. china was walking its way down, i don't want them to go down, but they're down close to 30% in three months. i want them on do well, i want to be their friend. but we had to do things that we had to do. when i came, we were heading in a certain direction that was going to allow china to be bigger than us in a very short period of time. that's not going to happen any more. [applause] not going to happen. can't let it happen. the long winding road, you know the long, winding road. i have tremendous respect for china. the energy, the genius, it's incredible what they have done. hopefully will have a great relalsship. it has to be a two-way street. we have only one-way streets. not just china, every country. our enemies, our friends, our allies. our allies treat us worse than our enemies. believe it. so it's all changing. when we get those trade deals done properly, and you know what bothers me, i have people coming to me, in congress, sir, can you get this deal done immediately. i say it doesn't work that way. i don't want to go too fast. the deal won't be any good if we do. that it has to jess tate, right -- gestate. right? like when you cook a chicken. time, time, turkey for thanksgiving miechlt mother would say eight hours. i said eight hours? she made the greatest turkey i've ever had. takes time. takes time. doing very well, on our way with a good deal, a fair deal. i don't want a good deal, i want a fair deal for both of us. fair with mexico. [applause] and you've heard me say it. as an example, when china makes a car they sell it into the united states, there's 2.5% tariff, of which they don't pay. they pay nothing. other than that it's a wonderful deal. when we make a car we sell it into china and there's a 25% tariff. that's just the beginning. there's others. a man was driving down a street in china and he looked over, and it was a chevrolet like camaro, does that make cents? i think it cost $39,000 or $40,000. he's in china, beijing, and he shouts across, he shouts across, tell me, how much did that car cost in china? guy looks, $119,000. you understand that, right? it's all taxes and taxes and taxes. we can't do that any more, can't do it. we are a country with unbelievable potential. we are a country that has been ripped off by everybody. and we're not going to be ripped off any more. and if it takes me a little angst to tell senators and congressman and all of the people that really do have your heart in their hands, in many cases, sometimes i wonder where are they coming from. but it has to take that little period of time w that being said we're moving so fast nobody can believe it. and every country wants to make a deal. because we're like the big fat piggy bank that everybody wants to rob. we're not going to let them rob us any more. is that okay? we're not going to let them rob us any more. every day we're keeping or promises. we're cancelling obama's illegal anti-coal destroying regulations. the so-called clean power plan. doesn't that sound nice? clean power. you know, when i ended the paris accord, what's a more beautiful name than the paris accord. let's call it the west virginia accord, maybe i would have signed it. [applause] when i entered that, it was going to cost us hundreds of billions of dollars. hundreds of billions. other countries as an example, china, didn't kick in until many years in the future. we kicked in immediately. russia went back many years which was not a clean time in terms of the environment. you know what we all agree, we want a clean environment, a strong, beautiful, clean environment. i want clean air. i want crystal clean water. and we've got it. we've got the cleanest country in the planet right now. there's nobody cleaner than us. and it's getting better and better and better. i'm getting rid of the ridiculous rules and regulations which are killing our companies, our states, and our jobs. just today we announced our new affordable clean energy proposal that will help our coal-fired power plants and save consumers, you, me, everybody, billions and billions of dollars. [applause] we've eliminated a record number of job-killing regulations and republicans have passed the biggest tax cuts and reform, the reform is very important. you know what i said, i don't want to talk about reform, nobody knows what it means. that could be a tax increase. i said how come it's been ronald ray ga than since you got the last big tax cut? they looked at me and said we don't know. a lot of great senators and congressmen came up to see me, and they had the 2018 tax reform. i said what the hell does that mean? are you going to raise taxes? then i found out this is what they've done for 40 years. tax reform. i said nobody knows what it means. we do have reform in there, great reform. but they said nobody knows. i said nobody knows what it means. here is, i want to put it down, tax cuts. they said what would be your favorite name mr. president. i said the tax cut-cut-cut-cut-cut bill. and we almost did it. we almost did it. but in all fairness, in this case, congressmen, a couple of them, thought it was tacky. so we called it the tax cut and jobs bill. but you know what? we have done great reform. the biggest tax cut in the history of our country. you people are benefitting. you're benefitting. and companies are benefitting, and those companies are the ones that are providing all of the jobs. we're setting records on jobs. we're protecting, also, so important for west virginia and a lot of states, we are protecting, again, religious liberty. [ applause ] and we're also standing up to social media censorship, that's the new thinking. that's the new thing. you know, i'd rather have fake news, like cnn, i'd rather have fake news. [booing] than have anybody, including liberals, socialists, anything, than have anybody stop and sensor. we have to live with it, we have to live with fake news, there's too many sources. everyone of us is like a newspaper. you have twitter, facebook, whatever you have. everyone, you can't have censorship. you can't pick one person and say we don't like what he's been saying, he's out. so we'll live with fake news, i mean i hate to say it. but we have no choice. that's by far the better alternative. can't have people saying censorship. you know what, it can turn around, it can be them next. it can be them next. we believe in the right of americans to speak their minds. we repeal the core of obamacare, individual mandate, we want to give critically ill patients, we have to give them access, we have to give healthcare to people. we want the right to try. you know what that is? they've been trying to get this for 40 years, couldn't get it. a person is terminally ill, they're terminally ill, they're really sick. i know people if they have money they travel all over the world to try and find a cure f they don't have money they die. they die. we have the greatest scientists in the world. that's why china and so many other people are trying, countries, trying to steal our technology. we can't let that happen. we have so many people that want to be able to give, it's like hope, right to try, i love it. they never had it before. a person is terminally ill. we have a great new drug but it's going to take another two, three years to have it approved. okay, maybe longer. but the tests are really looking good. this person is very sick. this person is going to be dead in 90 days and we couldn't get that drug for that person, no matter who you are. what's the story with this? there were a lot of complications. the insurance companies had problems, medical companies had problems, everybody. a lot of people didn't want them on the stats. horrible things. i said what's going on. we're going to take the right to try and we went through with the help of corey, your great, wonderful -- are you a coal lover, shelly. with the help of shelly. soon to be with patrick, he has a lot of things, he's going to get it. we have it approved. now if we have a drug that hasn't been approved, somebody has a certain illness, they're going to be able to try. you know what? some of the drugs we have in the pipeline are amazing. it's going to work for a lot of people. it's going to give them hope, give them hope. we've just secured $6 billion to fight the opiod epidemic. i know in west virginia that's a big deal, right? that's a big deal. we confirmed a record number of circuit courtings j.j., the record, is going -- court judges. it's bigger and bigger. if schumer would get them approved. he's not happy about approving them. we confirmed the great neil gorsuch to the supreme court of the united states. and as i just said, justice kavanaugh is doing great. looks like, i don't know, very tough. central casting. how do you vote against him? but the democrats may find a way. we've secured a record $700 billion for our military this year. and $716 billion. billion with a "b." our military will be stronger and bigger and better and more sophisticated than it's ever been. ever! and hopefully we'll never have to use it. we have a lot of good fighters out here. i see some of them, i know some of them. the one thing about a fighter or a nation or whatever you want, the stronger your military the better chance you have of never having to use it. we don't want to use it. we don't want to use it. and all of that equipment is being built right here in the usa, we make the greatest fighter jets in the world, we make the greatest ships in the world, we make the greatest missiles and rockets. nobody does it like us. and at my direction the pentagon is working hard to create the sixth branch of the american armed forces, the space force. [applause] i'm very excited. we need it. that's the new frontier. i'm not just talking about sending rockets to the moon. i'm talking about militarily, that's whesh it's at. thanks to the leadership of u.n. ambassador nikki haley we've reduced t reduced the united nations budget, saving the taxpayers $350 million. nobody wants to write it. we just passed the landmark v.a. accountability law, that's where people that don't treat our vets properly we look at them and we say you're fired, get the hell out. 45 years they've been trying to pass it. 45 years they've tried to pass it. we also passed veterans choice so that if our veterans can't get the care they need they have the right to see a private doctor. they don't have to wait in line for three weeks, four weeks, eight weeks, two months. i withdrew the united states from the horrible iran nuclear deal. [applause] and this month we reimposed tough sanctions on iran nuclear program and on iran. i also recognize the capital of israel and opened the american embassy in jerusalem. and i understand now what happened. every president, many, many presidents, they said we're going to do it. we're going to move our embassy to jerusalem, going to be the capital of israel. we're going to do it. then they don't could it. -- don't do it. politicians, they don't do it. i said i'm going to do it during the campaign, right here in west virginia. and i now understand why many, many presidents before me said they were going to do it and didn't do it. because i was inundated with calls from foreign leaders. every country, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, please don't do it. and so actually what i did, i was about five days off, i stopped taking calls, i said i'll call you back next week. i knew what they were going to ask me. easier to say, oh, i didn't know you were calling for that reason. so i approved it. and it should have been done years ago. [applause] and if there's ever going to be peace, remember i said it, with the palestinians, it was a good thing to have done. because we took it off the table. because every time there were peace talks they never got past jerusalem becoming the capital. i said take interest off the table. in the negotiation, israel will have to pay a higher price. they want a very big thing. i took it off the table. they could never get by. i understand that, corey, you both understand that. shelly, they could never get past the fact of jerusalem becoming the capital. now it's off the table. there's nothing to negotiate. but they'll get something very good. it's their term next. see what happens. it's very interesting. i've heard that's the toughest deal of all deals. that's called peace between israel and the palestinians. they say that's the toughest of all deals. we'll see what happens. instead of apologize, that's what we're doing, is winning. instead of apologizing for america we're standing up for america, we're standing up for the heros who defend our country. to continue this incredible success, we must elect republicans, we must elect patrick morrissey, we need him. we need patrick. so get your friends, your neighbors, your co-workers, your family members, get the people that love our country and get out to vote. we need his vote so badly. we need his energy. you're going to see, he has energy. loyal citizens like you help build this country. together we're taking back our country. returning power to where it belongs to the american people. from morgantown to madison to charleston this great state was settled by tough pioneer men and strong pioneer women who tamed the wilderness to build a better life for themselves and for their incredible american families. they didn't have a lot of money. they didn't have a lot of luck. but they had grit and they had faith and they loved each other. i'll tell you what, they were smart. they are smart. we're the smart ones, remember. i say it all the time, you hear the elite, they're not elite, we're elite. you're smarter than they are, you have more money than they are, you have better jobs than they do. you're the elite. let them have the word elite, you're the super elite, that's what it is. i always hate, i always hate when they say well the elite decided not to go to something i'm doing. the elite. i say, well, i have a lot more money than they do. i have a much better education than they have. i'm smarter than they are. i have many much more beautiful homes than they do. i have a better apartment at the top of fifth avenue. why the hell are they the elite, tell me? because you're the elite, just remember that, you're the elite. they aren't the elite. that's just a name. aren't you insulted when they say the elite? i'm always insulted. they're not the elite. your people and the people that preceded you in west virginia were the carpenters and the coal miners, the ministers, the metal workers, the farmers, the factory workers. they all had one thing in common. they love their families, they love their country, and they love their god. [applause] we stand on the shoulders of generations of american patriots who knew how to fight and they knew how to win. we're winning again. we're winning again. just like them we're going to keep on fighting and we're going to keep on winning. and we're going to win for our nation, our children, our families. we're going to win for our continued freedom. [applause] i joked that i'll have patrick morrissey coming to me soon, he will be your senator, and he'll say mr. president, the people of west virginia can't stand winning so much. they haven't won in decades. and now you're winning with coal, winning with everything. he's going to say patrick is going to say mr. president, please, they don't want to win so much. they can't stand it. please, you're winning too much for west virginia, please stop winning. i'm going to say patrick, i'm sorry, i don't care what the hell the people of west virginia want, we're going to keep on winning anyway, because i believe that's what they want. right? that's what they want. [applause] because the people of west virginia never give up, they never give in, and they never back down. place because we are america and our hearts bleed red, white, and blue. we are one people, one family, and one glorious nation under god. and together we will make america wealthy again. that's happening. that's happening a lot faster than the fake news ever said it could happen. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again. and we will make america great again. thank you, west virginia, thank you. [applause] ♪ "you can't always get what you want" ♪ >> tucker: you can't always get what you want, the signature ending to a trump rally. wrapping up the speech in west virginia on a busy news day. we've been watching the events of today, tammy bruce joins with us a recap. tammy, tell me what you thought of the president's remarks in light of everything that's happened today in the news. >> well, he was on his game, frankly more than i'd even seen him. he clearly loves what he's doing, still. he had a message he wanted to impart. he did so. i never really realized his outgoing theme song was a message to the elite. but apparently it is at this point. they're not getting what they want. this is an unflappable man. look, it was a lot of news today. but it was also news that wasn't necessarily surprising. it's kind of been baked into what we've been watching for the last year, year and a half. so it's not surprising. and the president of course sig nals nald his approach when he was going to the rally, reiterating his feeling about the mueller investigation, nothing of what happened today was about the special counsel and the so-called russian collusion. but of course it seemed today at this rally, reminding people of what he's accomplished for them. even more than that, being in a state with people that the democrats took for granted, that democratic administrations effectively abandoned, hillary and obama wanted to change and destroy getting rid of coal. he reminded them that he's with them that, he was a part of them, and they're with him. this is what you're going to see leading up to the mid terms. optimistic man, remaining confident, he clearly, mentioned the molly tibbetts murder, but it's so early at this point, not going into the details there, but making it clear with what you're also going to hear leading up to the mid terms, that a red wave means safety and strength. that a blue wave would mean open borders, and crime. that is the method -- the message you will be hearing from the president leading into the mid terms and it will be one that resonates. >> tucker: i think he wins on these themes. i was, however, a little surprised to learn that michael cohen was taking a commission for selling a birken bag which i had never heard of, extremely expensive hand bag, he made $30,000 brokering a deal and he didn't pay taxes on it. that's amusing, i don't know why. >> even the elitist products, might come back and bite you. >> tucker: yeah. you shouldn't pay that much for a hand bag, maybe god is weighing in. >> a message from the lowered. >> tucker: thank you. well, this is a fox news alert, as mentioned, paul manafort was found guilty on eight counts financial, mostly tax evasion. michael cohen pleaded guilty to criminal charges of his own a lot happened. we're joined by chief important ton dent ed henry to tell us what it was. hey, ed. >> good to see you. the michael cohen case could be more damaging to the president, he was directly implicated. a far cry from the paul manafort case, nothing to do with the president, 016, or russia collusion. the former trump campaign chair found guilty on five counts of filing wrong income tax returns, two charges of bank fraud. jury couldn't reach a verdict on 10 other counts. prosecutors have until the end of the month to decide on a possible retrial. there is a possibility that manafort could be pardoneded by the president. the president said nothing about the potentially more explosive cohen case. leaving to it his attorney, rudy giuliani, to provide this statement. no aels of any wrongdoing against the president and the government's charges against mr. cohen. it's clear as the prosecutor noted mr. cohen's actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time. cohen's plea deal allegation he broke the law to influence the 2016 election. cohen will get prison time between 43 and 63 months on charges of bank fraud, tax evasion and campaign finance charges involving payments to two women who allege romantic relationships with the president. no campaign finance law was broken according to giuliani. this plea deal contradicts that statement and raises questions whether the president or anyone else from the campaign will be implicated. >> tucker: at its core a confusing story, really, thank, ed. appreciate it. allen dershowitz is a retired harvard law professor, the author of "the case against impeaching president trump." the manafort story, convicted of tax evasion, sounds like he did it, i don't think many people are surprised. cohen, part of the guilty plea surrounds money that he moved apparently from trump's together a woman who alleged sexual contact with trump. that's a common scenario among famous people, we have seen a lot of it, people paying off women who say they had sexual contact with the affluent person. is that illegal, how is that a crime? >> well, itself isn't a crime. if the president had paid it directly it wouldn't be a crime. the allegation here is that it was cohen who paid it and made a campaign contribution. which he didn't report at the direction of the president. some stations are already playing the funeral music for president trump. but this is much more complicated, much more knew answered. the crime itself is very, very vague. they try to put edwards, the former presidential candidate, on trial and of course he got an acquit an. it depends completely on the credibility of cohen. as judge ellis said, when they squeeze people like manafort or cohen, they squeeze them not only to sing but sometimes to compose. it's very easy to embellish a story. assume hypothetically he did pay the money and it was designed to help the impact. election that wouldn't involve the president. all he has to do is say the president directed me to do it. that's the kind of embellishment people put on a story when they want to avoid dieing in prison. the prosecutor says you have two choices, die in prison or give me a story can i use to get the president. i'm not suggesting that happened here. the risk is what judge ellis talked about in the manafort case. we may see that at work here. we're a long way from tolling the bells for this administration. it's a bad day, negative day but not a fatal one. >> tucker: bad for sure. but i'm a bit confused. some one comes to you and says to you, you're running for office and the person says give me money or i will humiliate you in public and you do give that person money, instruct your lawyer to give that person money, that's a campaign donation? >> not if you make it yourself. if somebody else pays the money in order to influence the outcome. election it is technically,ps practice, a violation of the election laws. that's what they tried to get edwards on, didn't work. they got an acquittal and hung jury they never tried him again. but you know, again, violation of election laws, are regarded as kind of jaywalking. in the realm of things, about elections. and there are so many of them. every administration vie lalts the election laws. every candidate violates the election laws. usually they pay a fine, something like that happens. here they're trying to elevate night an impeachable offense or felony against the president. they may name the president as an unindicted co-conspirator that, did that with nixon, back then, i complained about that. naming some one as unindicted co-conspiracy, he has no opportunity to defend himself or herself. that may happen. this is the beginning of a story that will unravel over time. but it's not nearly as deadly lethal as some have portrayed it as being. >> tucker: certainly confusing. as a matter of -- professor, thank you, for explaining that. appreciate it. >> president trump: with the illegal alien coming in, very sadly, from mexico and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman. should have never happened. illegally in our country. we've had a huge impact. but the laws are so bad. the immigration laws are such a disgrace. >> tucker: the president moments ago for the last month, iowans have searched for molly tibbetts. today, tragically, her body was discovered. the suspect is an illegal immigrant. he led them to the body in a corn field. matt fin is in iowa for us with details. matt? >> talker, molly tibbetts' body was found in a corn field not far from where i'm standing. police say 24-year-old christian rivera has been channelled with first degree murder in the death of molly tibbetts. authorities say he has been in this country illegally. tonight we're working to learn about rivera's background. we have learned that i.c.e. has placed a detainer on rivera and say he's here from mexico. one of the lead investigators giving us a little more details on christian rivera. >> we have confirmed with homeland security investigation that he is an illegal alien. and we believe he's been in this area, now, for four to seven years. >> investigators say rivera confessed that on july 18, the day molly tibbetts went missing, he approached her and followed her while she was out on her jog. she spotted him and said leave me alone, i'm going to call police. took out her cell phone. rivera told police he continued to follow her and blacked out and doesn't remember what happened after that. nd he came to in a rural area not far from here. authorities say this morning rivera led them to a remote location about 13 miles from her hometown where they found what they believe is the body of molly tibbetts. authorities say it was a surveillance video that showed molly jogging and then rivera's black malibu car, how they tracked down rivera. police have not revealed the manner of molly's death. rivera saw molly prior to the day that she allegedly murdered her on july 18, it's not clear how often he saw her. police are also going to clarify are us in the coming days whether he may have been stalking her. she was set to return to the university of iowa as a sophomore, her father rob tibbetts was on the ground here pleading for information leading to the arrest or conviction of anyone involved in the disappearance of his daughter. he went to the university -- he went to the iowa state fair to hand out fliers begging for information. after 30-plus days he's learned that his daughter has been found dead. tucker? >> tucker: thank you, matt. as with the kate steinle case a young american might still be alive if the country were willing to enforce its own federal laws. luis er luiser if nan da injoining us. >> thank you. >> tucker: the line that the rest of us are willing to accept, all immigrants are great people, better than us, if we su expect otherwise we're bad peepful we point to evidence proving otherwise then we're bigots and should be quiet. why don't americans have a quite to police their own borders and say if you aren't here legally you have to leave now. >> i'm glad that you're giving us an opportunity to have this discussion. democrats, republicans, independent interests, immigrants and those born here all alike can agree that the heinous crimes have no place regardless of who does them. just this week, we found out that a white man in denver killed his wife and two beautiful daughters. tragic. just as this young woman in iowa, whose death is a tragedy. i can't imagine what her family is going through. >> tucker: but here's the difference. i understand. hold on. >> the man in denver doesn't speak for all white men. >> tucker: i didn't say anything about this man's race, the story isn't about race, don't make it about race, stop. that i was saying this is about nationality and citizenship. he had no right to be here. that's the difference. lots of americans commit heinous crimes, we put them in prison where they should be. exactly. >> tucker: but he didn't have a right to be here in the first place. he should not have been here. his presence violated federal law. you and your party tell us we're racist for wanting to enforce our own laws. i has everything to do with whether we think laws are real. some of the -- tlmpblts's more we agree on. we agree that the immigration system is badly broken, horribly broken. >> tucker: i don't think that. >> the people that have a way of fixing that have been oftentimes republicans. >> tucker: no, you don't -- this is just spin. it's simple. i asked you a question, answer it, why don't we as american citizens, you, me, our neighbors, everyone, immigrants or not, an american, have a right to say if you don't have a right to be here you must leave. when did we lose that right? why don't we have that right? >> i tell you when, when people who own big corporations, companies, inviting these people to come work off times at depressed wages they need the labor. >> tucker: i agree with you completely. i agree with you completely. >> george bush brought mexican immigrants to help with the recovery and reconstruction after katrina. >> tucker: to his eternal shame and the unemployment rate -- you're right, but what you are missing is the african-american unemployment rate in new orleans remains very high. those jobs went to foreigners. they didn't help the americans who need the help. >> i agree. >> tucker: you're right, i agree. to his eternal shame. one of the reasons he has a lot to be ashamed of from eight years as president. one of the main things. i have a simple question, you and i agree. why don't we say to employers you must verify the legal status of your employees, if you can't you can't employ them. >> we agree on. that one of the things we did under the obama administration is establish e-verify. >> tucker: universal e-verify. absolutely, yes it was. >> tucker: democrats are totally against it, they take money from these employers that rely on cheaper -- >> it included it. border security. it included verification. d.c. it's not true. democrats right now, ask members, in the senate, are you for universal e-verify. if you can't prove your employees are in this country you can't employ them r they for it. >> under the obama administration we set off drones in california, added border patrol agents. we agree we need a safe and orderly border. >> tucker: it didn't work. >> how do you use your reverses. the problem i have is we have immigration agents chasing down moms taking their kids to school instead of looking for criminals. >> tucker: that's silly. here was a real criminal. if we --. absolutely. >> tucker: if we eliminate i.c.e. as democrats call for, how do we police our immigration laws? we can't. you represented a party that would like to eliminate immigration ep forcement. >> as long as trump and other republicans politicize it, it turns into a kind have debate that takes away from the reality that we need a safe and secure border, someone who is stopping the flow of illegal guns and drugs north, and bulk cash. we did that during the obama administration. >> tucker: i'm sorry, this is disingenuous. the country is flooded with heroin from mexico. >> we are in agreement on that. but when you politicize it -- >> tucker: with respect you aren't tell the truth. >> the mom going to school and taking her kids there and raiding factories -- >> tucker: thank you, i appreciate it. okay. the left is hyping up its base for 20920 election. could their priorities be hurting them? hem in the upcoming midterm? you're turning onto the street when you barely clip a passing car. minor accident - no big deal, right? wrong. your insurance company is gonna raise your rate after the other car got a scratch so small you coulda fixed it with a pen. maybe you should take that pen and use it to sign up with a different insurance company. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ where we're changing withs? 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dana perino joins us tonight, joins "the daily briefing" if you watch every day and should. it's nice to have some one as calm and considered, after the heated conversation we had. i'm especially grateful you are here. do you think it's possible that the strategy for 2020 affects the mid terms adversely, or the other way around? >> dana: the other day i was listening to the podcast a woman from third way, pretty moderate democrat, said she could list 35 democrats that come to mind that are going to want to run in 2020. and in their zeal to try to find a lane in 2020, they are stirring up the base in 2018 but the wrong base. because clays basically what they're talking about is supreme court obstruction, impeaching the president, medi-cal for all, and this relates -- medicare for all and abolishing i.c.e. all of those things are what democratic senators in tough re-election, don't want to talk about those things. they could be good bumper stickers for 2020, they're not helpful for 2018. >> tucker: i mean, do you think looking at the map, i know you do in a forensic way, do you think that enough races could be altered by the themes that the republicans hold the house? 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A look at the latest news and headlines of the day features discussions of politics and culture, analysis of political correctness in Campus Craziness and... we have tremendous respect for china, the energy and the genius, it's incredible what they've done. but we can't do it, it has to be a two-way street. we only have one way streets not only was china but everybody. our enemies, our friends, our allies. our allies treat us worse than our enemies. it's all changing and when we get those trade deals done properly, sir, can you get this done immediately? he it's got to take time, it's like -- it's got to just state. like when you are cooking a turkey. thanks giving my mother would say, eight hours. i said, eight hours? she made the greatest turkey i've ever had. it takes time. so they run and they say, can you do nato right now? can you sign it next week? and i said look. i like mexico, and i like the new leader. i think he's going to be terrific. a little different than us, and i think i'm doing better with him than with the capitalists. he knows that mexico needs the united states. they need the united states. canada charges us close to 300% tariffs which is essentially saying we don't want your dairy products. they have a wall called an economic wall. i mean justin, justin trudeau, nice guy. but they've taken advantage of us for so many years that we have to take our time. with that being said, we are doing very well. we are on our way with a good deal. fair with mexico. and when china makes a car, they sell it into the united states. and they sell it into china and there is a 25% tariff, and that's just the beginning. there are others. a man was driving down a street in china and he looked over, and it was a chevrolet like camaro. does that make sense? he's in beijing. and tell me, how much did that car cost in china? that guy looks $119,000. you understand, that's all taxes and more taxes. we can't do that anymore. we are a country with unbelievable potential. we are a country that has been ripped off by anybody and we are not going to be ripped off anymore. and if it takes me a little angst to tell senators and congressmen and all of the people that really do have their heart in their hands, and sometimes i don't know where people are coming from with their suggestions, it will take that time. with that being said we are moving so fast that i can't even believe it. and we are not going to let them rob us anymore. every day we are keeping our promises, canceling obama's illegal anti-coal destroying regulations. the so-called clean power plan. doesn't that sound nice? clean power. you know when i ended the paris accord, what's a more beautiful name than the paris accord? let's call it the west virginia accord. that was going to cost us hundreds of billions of dollars. hundreds of billions. in other countries as an example, china, didn't kick in until many years in the future. and we all agree, we all want a clean environment. and i want crystal clean water and we got it. we've got the cleanest country in the planet right now. there is nobody cleaner than us and it's getting better and better. it's part of our companies, our states and our jobs. just today, that helps our coal-fired power plants and saves consumers, you, me, everybody, billions and billions of dollars. we have eliminated a record number of job killing regulations and republicans have passed and reforms. and nobody knows what that means, that could be a tax increase. and they looked at me and they said, we don't know. , they had the 2018 tax reform. are you going to raise taxes? and tax reform, i said nobody knows what it means. but they said nobody knows what it means. i want to put it down, tax cuts. they said what would be your favorite name, mr. president? and i said, the tax cut cut cut bill. and we almost did it, and in this case congressman, a couple of them are a little bit tacky, and we have done great reform. and you people are benefiting. companies are benefiting and those companies are the ones that are providing all of the jobs and setting records on jobs. we are protecting also so important for west virginia and a lot of states, and we are protecting religious liberty. we are also standing up to social media censorship, that's the new thing. i'd rather have fake news then have anybody including liberal socialists, anything, then have anybody stopped and sensitive. we have to live with it. everyone of us is sort of like a newspaper. you have twitter, or whatever you have, you have facebook. but you can't pick one person and say, we don't like what he's been saying, he's out. so we will live with fake news. i hate to say it but we have no choice because that's by far the better alternative. you can turn around, it could be them next. we could be the right of americans to speak their minds. we want to give critically ill patients access. we want the right to try. do you know what the right to try is? for 40 years, they couldn't get it. the patients are terminally ill. they are very sick. i know people, if they have money they travel all over the world to try to find the cure and if they don't have money, they died. we have the greatest scientists in the world which is why china and so many other people are trying to steal our technology. we can't let that happen. and they want to be able to give -- it's like hope. it's the right to try. if that person is terminally ill, we have a great new drug but it will take two or three years to have it approved. maybe longer. but the tests are really looking good. this prison is very sick and this person is going to be dead, in 90 days. we couldn't get that drug for that person, no matter who you will. and the insurance companies have had problems, the medical companies, everybody. i said what's going on? we are going to take the right to try and we went through with the help of corey, with the help of your great and wonderful -- you are a cold lover, aren't you, shelley? soon to be with the help of patrick. patrick's going to a lot of things. we got it approved. so now if we have a great drug that hasn't been approved and somebody has a certain illness, they will be able to try. and you know what, some of its drugs that we have in the pipeline are amazing, and it's going to give them hope. we have just secured $6 billion to fight the opioid epidemic, and i know in west virginia that's a big deal. we confirmed a record number of circuit court judges, it's a record a growing bigger and bigger. we have a lot of them in the line if sumer would ever get them approved. he's not exactly thrilled about approving them. and, as i just said, how do you vote against him? the democrats may find a way. we secured a record $700 billion for our military this year and $716 billion. billion, with a b. our military will be stronger and bigger and better and more sophisticated than it has ever been. and you don't get a lot of good fighters out here. the stronger your military, the better chance you have of never having to use it. we don't want to use it. and all of that equipment is being built here in the usa. we make the biggest ships in the world, we make the greatest ships and rockets. and, the space force. that's very exciting. that's the new frontier and i'm not just talking about sending rockets to the moon, i'm talking about militarily, that's where it's at. thanks to the leadership of u.n. ambassador nikki haley, we have reduced the united nations spending by $1.3 billion saving u.s. taxes, $350 million just came out but nobody wants to write that. we just passed the landmark va accountability. we say we are fired, get the heck out. 45 years. 45 years they are trying to pass. they also pass veterans choice, they have a right to see a private doctor. they don't have to wait in line for three weeks, four weeks, eight weeks or two months. i withdrew the united states, from the horrible iranian nuclear deal. and this month we reimpose some sanctions on iran's nuclear program, and i also recognized the capital of israel and opened the american embassy. and i understand now, what happened? they said it, we are going to do it. we are going to move our embassy to jerusalem, it will be the capital of israel and we are going to do it. and then, they don't do it. politicians don't do it. so i said i'm going to do it during the campaign. i said i will do it right here in west virginia. and i now understand why many, many presidents before me said they were going to do it and didn't do it. because i was inundated with calls from foreign leaders, every country. don't do it, don't do it, please don't do it. so actually what i did, i was about five days off. i stopped taking calls and i said, i will return your call next week. because i knew that what they were going to ask me. so, i approved it. so i should have done that years ago. and with the palestinians, it was a good thing to be done. every time there was peace talk talks, they never got past. in the negotiation israel will have to pay a higher price because they want a very big thing but i took it off the table. they could never get by. you understand that, corey. you both understand that, shelley. they could never get past the fact of jerusalem becoming the capital. now it's off the table. there's nothing to negotiate. but, it's their term next, let's see what happens. i've always heard that's the toughest steel of all deals, it's called peace between israel and the palestinians. and instead of paula apologizing for america, we are standing up for america and we are standing up for those that defend our country we must elect more republicans, we must elect patrick morrissey. we need him. we need patrick. so get your friends, your neighbors, your coworkers, get the people that love our country and get out to vote. we need this energy. loyal citizens like you, returning power to where it belongs to the american people. this great state, they were settled by pioneer men and pioneer women, who tamed the wilderness to build a better life for themselves and for their incredible american families. they didn't have a lot of money, they didn't have a lot of luck, but they had to grit and they had a faith and they loved each other. and i will tell you what, they were smart. we are the smart ones. remember. i say it all the time, you hear the elite. they are not elite, we are elite. you have more money and have better jobs than they do, eat they are the elite. so let them have the word, elit elite. i always say, the elite decided not to go to something i'm doing. right, the elite. well, i have more money than they do. i have a much better education than they have. and i have many much more beautiful homes then they do. i have a better apartment at the top of fifth avenue. why are they the elite? because you are the elite. aren't you insulted when they say, the elite? to me, and the consulted. your people and the people that preceded you in west virginia where the carpenters and the coal miners, the ministers, the farmers of the factory workers. .they all have one thing in common. they love their family, they love their country and they love their god. [cheers and applause] we stand on the shoulders of generations of america on patriots who knew how to fight and it knew how win. we are winning again. just like then, we will keep on finding and keep on winning and we are going to win for our continued freedom. i joked that i will have patrick morrissey coming to me soon. it will be your senator, and he will say mr. president, the people of west virginia can't stand winning so much. they haven't won in decades and now you are winning with coal and when with everything. he's going to say, patrick, he's going to say, mr. president, please. they don't want to win so much, they can't stand it. please, you are winning too much for west virginia. while i don't care what the people of west virginia want to, we are going to keep on winning, because i believe that's what they want. that's what they want. because the people of west virginia never give up, and they never backed down. because we are american, and are hearts bleed at red, and blue. we are one family and one nation under glorious god. and we will make america wealthy again. that's happening a lot faster than the fake news ever said it could happen. we will make america strong again. we will make america safe again, and we will make america great again. thank you west virginia, thank you. ♪ >> tucker: "you can't always get what you want," the signature ending to a presidential rally. tammy bruce has been watching the speech in west virginia and the events of today and she joins us tonight with a recap. tammy, tell me what you thought of the president's remarks in light of everything that happened in the news. >> while he was on his game frankly more than i've ever seen him. he clearly loves what he is doing still. he had a message he wanted to impart, and he did so. i never realized his outgoing theme song was a message to the elite, but apparently days at this point. they are not getting what they want. this was an unflappable man. there was a lot of news today, but some of it wasn't necessarily surprising. it's been baked into what we've been watching for the last year or year and a half. so it's not surprising in the president of course signaled his approach when he was going to this rally, reiterating his feeling about the mueller investigation, that nothing that happened today was about the special counsel and the so-called russian collusion. his team today today at this rally was a reminder of what he has accomplished for them and, more than that being in a state with people that the democrats took for granted. that democratic administration effectively abandoned, that hillary and obama wanted to destroy and change by getting rid of coal. he reminded them that he's with them, he's a part of them and they are with him. so this is what you will see leading up to the midterms. an optimistic man remaining confident. he mentioned the mollie tibbetts murder, but obviously it so early at this point, not going into the details there but making it very clear with what it also is leading up to the midterms, the red wave means safety and strength. the blue wave would mean open borders and crime. so that's the message you are going to be hearing leading into the midterms and the one i think that resonates. >> i think -- i was however surprised to learn that michael cohen was taking commission for saving a broken bag, and apparently it's extremely expensive and he made 30 grand apparently brokering the deal and didn't pay taxes on it. i found that kind of amusing. >> even the elitist products, they might come back to bite you. >> it's a message from the lord. thanks for having me. this is a a fox news alert. as i mentioned paul manafort was found guilty on eight counts of financial evasion. michael cohen pled guilty to criminal charges of his own and a lot happened. >> the michael cohen case could prove to be more damaging to the president legally and politically because he was directly implicated. far cry from the paul manafort case. the former trump campaign chair found guilty on five counts of filing false income tax returns, one count failing to file a report of a foreign bank account into charges of bank fraud. the jury could not reach a verdict on ten other counts and prosecutors have until the end of the month to decide on a possible retrial. it is also the possibility that paul manafort will be pardoned by the president. and, there is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president and the government's charges against mr. cohen. his actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time but, cohen's plea deal indicates he broke the law. but between the 43 and 63 and campaign finance charges that have been mentioned, including two women that alleged affairs with the president that he vehemently denies. remember, no campaign finance law was broken in this plea deal contradicts that statement and raises questions about whether the president or anyone else from the campaign will be implicated. >> tucker: at its core, a confusing story, really. they retired harvard law professor, he joins us now to help sort this out. the paul manafort story seems pretty cut and dry, he's convicted of tax evasion and most people think he did it. but cohen, part of this guilty plea includes money that he moved and that's a very common scenario. you see a lot of that in the past, is that illegal? how is that a crime? >> that in itself is not a crime end of the president had paid it directly it would not be a crime. the allegation here is it was cohen who paid it and made a campaign contribution which he didn't report, at the direction of the president. some stations are already playing the funeral music for president trump, but this is much more complicated and much more nuanced. first of all the crime itself is very, very vague. they try to put edwards, the former presidential candidate on trial and of course got an acquittal. but second, it really depends completely on the credibility of cohen. remember as judge ellis said it, when they squeeze people like manafort or cohen, they squeeze them not only to sing but sometimes to compose and they embellish the story. they did pay the money, and all he has to do then is say, and the president directed me to do it. that's a kind of embellishment the people put on a story when they want to avoid dying in prison. you can die in prison, or give me a story that i can use to go and get the president. the risk of that happening is what judge ellis talked about, and we may see that at work here. so we are a long way from tolling the bells for this administration. it's a bad day, it's a negative day but not a fatal one. >> tucker: but i'm so confused, if somebody comes to you and says, -- if someone says give me money or i will humiliate you in public, and you do give that person money, that's a campaign donation? >> not if you make it yourself. but if somebody else pays the money in order to influence the outcome of the election, that it is technically perhaps a violation of the election laws. and they never tried them again. but again, a violation of election laws are regarded as kind of jaywalking in the realm of things about elections. and there are so many of them. every administration violates the election laws, every candidate violates the election laws when they run for president. usually they pay a fine or something like that happens. here they are trying to elevate this in an impeachable offense or a felony against the president. they may name the president as an unindicted coconspirator, they did that with nixon. even back then i complained about that because naming somebody because they have no opportunity to defend himself or herself and yet that may happen. this is the beginning of a story that will unravel over time but it's not nearly as deadly lethal as some have portrayed it as being. >> tucker: is certainly confusing. thank you for explaining that. >> president trump: you heard about today the illegal alien coming in, very sadly, from mexico. and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman. that should have never happened. he legally in our country. we have not had a huge impact but the laws are so bad and immigration laws are such a disgrace. >> tucker: that was a president moments ago. for the last month, i ones have searched and prayed for a missing college student called mollie tibbetts. today tragically, her body was discovered. the suspect is an illegal immigrant who led them to the body in a cornfield. national correspondent matt finn is in iowa tonight with details. >> tucker, mollie tibbetts' body was found in a cornfield not far from where i'm standing and 24-year-old christian rivera has been charged with first-degree murder in the death of 20-year-old to mollie tibbetts. police say rivera has been in the country illegally and tonight we are learning more about his background. so far we have learned that i.c.e. has placed a retainer on rivera and say that he is here from mexico. it is one of the lead investigators giving us more details on christian rivera. >> we have confirmed with homeland security investigations that he is an illegal alien, and we believe he has been in this area for a 47 years. >> investigators say that rivera confessed that on july 18, the day that she went missing, he approached her and followed her while she was jogging. she spotted him and said, leave me alone, i'm going to call police and took out her cell phone. rivera told police he continued to follow her and then blacked out and doesn't remember what happened after that. he came to in a rural area not far from here. authority saved this morning rivera led them to a remote location about 13 miles from her hometown, and that is where they found what they believe is the body of mollie tibbetts. it was a surveillance video that was submitted to them that showed mollie jogging and then, rivera is a black vehicle. police say that he did see mollie prior to the day that he allegedly murdered her. it's not clear how often he saw her but police will also clarify in the coming days whether he may have been stalking her. mollie tibbetts was set to return to the university of iowa is a sophomore this year and her father, rob tibbets was on the ground here for 30 days pleading for information leading to the arrest or conviction of anyone involved in the disappearance of his daughter. he even went to the iowa state fair to hand out flyers, begging for information. after 30 plus days he has now learned that his daughter has been found, dead. tucker? >> tucker: thank you. as with the kate steinle case, it looks like a young american might still be alive if the country were willing to simply enforce its own federal laws. luis miranda is joining us tonight. so, the line where the rest of us are kind of forced to accept is, all immigrants are great people, better than us in fact. and if we suspect otherwise, we are bad people. if we point to evidence proving otherwise than we are flat out bigots and we should be quiet. why don't americans have a right to police their own borders and say, if you are not here legally, you have to leave now? >> i'm glad that you are giving us the opportunity to have this discussion because democrats, lukens, immigrants and dependents, all alike, we can agree that these heinous crimes have no place regardless of who does them. just this week we found out that a white man in denver killed his wife and two beautiful young daughters. also tragic, just as this young woman in iowa whose death is a huge tragedy. >> tucker: luis, i didn't say anything about this man's race, the story is not about race. don't make it about race, stop that. i was saying this is about nationality and citizenship, this man had no right to be here. that's the difference. in the first place, he didn't have a right to be here in the first place. he should not have been here, his presence violated federal law. you and your party tell us that we are racist for wanting to enforce our laws, but it has everything to do with whether we think laws are real. >> we both agreed that the immigration system is badly broken, horribly broken. and people who don't have a way of fixing that have oftentimes been republicans. >> tucker: no you don't, this is just spin. why don't we as american citizens, you, me, our neighbors, everyone, everyone who was an american have a right to say, if you don't have a right to be here, when did we lose that right? >> people who you own big corporations who are inviting these people to come work oftentimes have depressed wages. and that is recovery and reconstruction after katrina. >> tucker: two hands -- >> the african-american unemployment rate in new orleans it remains very high. they didn't help the americans who needed the help. i agreed to his eternal shame. that's one of the main things to be ashamed of. but i have a simple question. you must verify the legal status of your employees, and if you can't, you can't employ them. >> one of the things that we tried to do under the immigration bill -- >> tucker: universal e-verify. because democrats are totally against it now. totally. they take money from these employers -- >> that included it and it included border security, it included verification. >> tucker: but that's not true true? democrats right now ask members -- the 40 odd democrats in the senate, are you universally verified? if you can't prove that your employees are legally in this country, then you can't employ them. i'm sorry, it's 2018. we added border patrol agents. how do you use your resources, and the problem that i have right now is we have immigration agents shaking down moms taking their kids to school instead of looking for real criminals be one here was a real criminal, and that if we eliminate i.c.e. as democrats are calling for then how do we police our immigration laws? we can't. you represent a party that would like to eliminate immigration enforcement. >> it turns into this kind of debate that takes away from the reality, that we need a safe and secure border. we need someone who is actually stopping the flow of illegal guns and drugs north and bulk cash south. the one i'm sorry, this is disingenuous. the country is flooded with heroin from mexico. >> we are both in agreement on that. but when you politicize it, and -- >> tucker: you are not telling the truth. okay, thank you, i appreciate i it. the left is already hyping up its base for the 2020 election, but could their priorities be hurting them in the upcoming midterm? the great dana perino joins us next. ♪ ca and if i can get comfortable keeping this tookus safe and protected... you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. where we're changing withs? contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. who has the upper 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A look at the day's latest news and headlines. case? i know the vice president has been tweeting about it this evening, and it does remind all of us have the story and ramifications for so many families who never would have lost their loved one if the person who killed them was not allowed into the country. >> this has been an overwhelming number one priority since he announced his intention to run for president. when i first met him, this was all he discussed, and he had families of these people whose children had been killed by illegal immigrants. this is the thing he wants to stop with the wall, with ending sanctuary cities, stop and catch and release and he's been left with nothing but obstruction by the democrats. he's going to go over this extensively tonight, talk about those solutions, talk about what needs to be done and talk about the obstruction that he's being met with. this is the number one story. michael: is being : cohen is beg indicted -- >> martha: look at this crowd as they wait for the president here as he is about to appear moments away in west virginia. there they are gathered, and i guess you are probably right. i doubt that paul manafort or michael cohen are in the forefront of their minds as they stand there waiting for him to arrive in west virginia, where they are facing a senate election, patrick morrissey versus joe manchin of west virginia, and where obviously they have some big questions about the future of coal in their country which the president has talked quite a bit about. but immigration as you say, especially with this backdrop, everyone has been looking at the picture of this beautiful young woman who was about to start her sophomore year, going back to the college at the university of iowa who goes for a jog in her life is over. she will never again wake up in the morning it had to class like she should have. this is the ramifications and the meaning of this is much longer lasting my fear than some of the other things that we are discussing. >> this is the kind of thing that fires up from space to no end. also i would like to congratulate robert mueller who has done the same thing with his indictments today. trump space will now be fired up beyond your wildest imagination because they love him and they love what he does for people. doing things for people means stopping criminal illegal aliens from preying on and killing our children, it's that simple. >> thank you very much for being here tonight. we will hear more about mollie tibbetts as we move on this evening. and our other political stories tonight, michael cohen, cutting a deal with federal prosecutors pleading guilty to bank and a tax fraud, and campaign finance violations saying that he acted "in coordination and at the direction of a candidate for federal office. a bombshell that comes as president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort was found guilty today on eight of the 18 counts of the russian special counsel brought against him. they were not really related to that part of the story. there were czech and bank fraud issues moments ago. ed henry joins us now with these fast breaking develop minced tonight as they continue. >> tough day for the president on both fronts. the cohen case could be more difficult, and that's a far cry from the campaign and allegations of russian collusion. the former trump campaign chair was stone-faced as he learned the jury was found guilty on five counts of filing false income tax returns, one count of filing a foreign bank account into charges of bank fraud. the jury could not reach a verdict on tenant's accounts. prosecutors could bring that case back for a retrial by the end of the month while paul manafort is facing a second trial in d.c. on charges of loving fraud and other matters in september. there is also always the possibility that paul manafort will be pardoned by the president to declare the special counsel robert mueller's probe declared a mistrial. >> president trump: i feel very badly for paul manafort. again, he worked for bob dole, worked for ronald reagan, worked for many people. that's the way it ends up. it was not the original mission, believe me. >> significant the president did not say anything there about the potentially more explosive michael cohen case. he said there was no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president and the government's and mr. cohen's reflected ally over periods of time. he broke the law to influence the 2016 election on behalf of an unnamed candidate who was clearly the president. cohen will get prison time between 43 and 63 months after pleading guilty to the campaign finance charges plus bank fraud and tax evasion. that involved payments of two women who alleged affairs with the president that he has vehemently denied it. his plea deal directly contradicts what giuliani told fox back in maine. >> having something to do with paying some stormy daniels woman 130,000, which is going to turn out to be perfectly legal. that money was not campaign money. i'm sorry, i'm giving you a fact now that you don't know, it's not campaign money, no campaign finance violation. so -- >> they funneled it through a law firm? >> funneled it through a law firm. >> that raises a question whether there is legal jeopardy for anyone around the investigation. michael avenatti claims this allows him to get the stay lifted and he tweeted to giuliani tonight, "buckle up, buttercup." >> martha: hold onto her seat. here now, andy mccarthy, a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and a fox news contributor. and you can see that in the box in the lower right-hand corner, he's about to make an appearance in west virginia and we understand that he is on his way out. so let's watch and, let's give it a moment. anthony scaramucci, let me go to your first as we watch the president here. your reaction to these convictions today? >> my heart goes out to the families and i think that's a devastating situation for them and as it relates to the president i think mira mayor gi thinks he will be shielded from both of those cases. people are looking for the smoking gun and it's not in those two cases. we will have to see what else happens in the robert mueller report but what's clear is you can't indict a sitting presiden president. and that will be up to the congress, after what happens. but i don't think this hurts the president. it's bad facts, a question about that but i'm talking about procedurally and illegally i don't get hurt so president. >> martha: let's talk to the legal expert, andy mccarthy. how difficult is what happened today for the president? >> it's difficult, martha, because as anthony pointed out to, the political ramifications are more meaningful than the legal ones. as he points out, the sitting president can't be indicted. the investigation that mueller has been conducting has always been about impeachment and it's always up to the representatives to decide what an impeachable event is. so the overlay here is always more consequential than the legal aspect. >> martha: in terms of what michael avenatti is saying, he says the state, can stay will be lifted and stormy daniels i know would like to say that nondisclosure go away. the other big issue is, and that's for the purpose of the election. >> i think that that is a problem for the president and that cohen said he was directed by the then candidate, donald trump, to make the payments. to split legal hairs, the there's a difference between making the payments and making the required campaign finance disclosure. but obviously an implicit agreement like this is that this is not going to be disclosed. i don't think legally it amounts to a big problem but politically, it is not good. >> martha: all all right, stany gentlemen. be to let me say hello to all my friends in the great state of west virginia. we won by 42 points, that's pretty vague. 42 points. over a democrat, right? they didn't do too well. the people of west virginia, they are loyal, they are hardworking, they are true american patriots, remember tha that. they are great people. and my friends, -- thank you very much. i love you too. it's a guy, but i love you too. you are proud of our country, and unlike the nfl, you always honor and cherish our great american flag. [cheers and applause] that was just announced by espn that rather than defending our anthem, our beautiful, beautiful national anthem, and defending our flag, they decided that they just want broadcast what they play the national anthem. so since some of them are kneeling, and you are all proudly standing for the national anthem. thank you. the espn thing was terrible, just came out. under our administration, america is winning again and america is being respected again and it's america first. [cheers and applause] this is the greatest economy that we had. our steel mills are back. we are making steel again. united states steel announced a massive infusion of cash, and they are opening up seven different plants other steel companies all over the country are opening up plants and people said steel will never be back, but steel is back, it's one of the hottest industries in our country because of what we've done with our tariffs. they were dumping steel all over our country, they were destroying our business and they are not dumping any more, and if they do, they are paying a lot. america will be stronger than ever before. we are taking care of our amazing veterans, and i know this doesn't matter to you, but we are putting our great coal miners back to work. great people, great people. great people, i don't know how you do that. you guys have a lot of courage. but we love clean, beautiful, west virginia coal. we love it. and you know, that's indestructible stuff. in times of war, in times of conflict, you can blow up those windmills, they fall down really quick. you can blow up those pipelines, and you can do a lot of things to those solar panels, but you know what that's got to be something very special. and he was a democrat. i don't want to say it was because of me, i want to say it was because of policy. it was a great republican, and i want to bring him up if i could. can i bring up your governor? he is the largest most beautiful man, governor "big jim" justice. [cheers and applause] >> okay. i deputize you, did i not? the other thing i know that you as west virginians are appreciative people. now we know what this great man right beside me has done for us. [cheers and applause] [chanting] now let me say this. it's time for us to show that appreciation and deliver back. we have to reelect our house members, and we cannot, whatever we do, to god above, we cannot put odetta on this man. but it goes further than that. patrick morrissey is a little behind right now. he needs you. he needs all of you. he needs you to be warriors and deputies for him. he can win this, and this man needs him. so i would say, god bless this great man, god bless this great country and thank you for having me. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: he's a big man. he's all man. 6'11", i won't talk about the weight. i don't know. i don't know what the weight is, i won't go there. but he is a big man and he's a great man, wonderful friend of mine. that's really nice what he just said about the man that you want to be. your next senator. that's really nice. also, we have your senator, who is a special friend of mine. he has been so helpful to me and so helpful to you, she loves your estate. shelley moore capito. [cheers and applause] congressman david mckinley. alex mooney, and evan jenkins. evan, you put up one heck of a fight. and your state g.o.p. chairwoma chairwoman, melody bonner. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: thank you. also with us is a tremendous senator, somebody that has helped us to our agenda which is make america great again pretty much. and we have a lot of different names. did you see promises made, promises kept? they are copying it now. promises made, promises kept. but what are you going to do? this man makes a promise that is 100% good, he's tremendous. he's done so much. he's from a place called colorado. he's helping to lead our campaign to elect more senate republicans, like the man we are going to elect in west virginia, cory gardner. thank you cory. you are doing a great job, thank you. and we are thrilled to be joined by the next house members from west virginia's third congressional district. a woman that works very hard for you, carol miller. carol? [cheers and applause] thanks, carol. finally, it's my great honor to introduce the person that we are here to support tonight. a tremendous gentleman. i got to know him during the campaign. he has got an energy, it took me a little while to figure it out, i have to be honest. once i got to see what was happening, and evan would be the first to tell you, he was so tough and so smart, he didn't stop. he does not stop. he will fight for you like no one has ever fought for the people of west virginia. your next senator, patrick morrissey. patrick come up here. come up here, patrick. >> joe does have to go. let me just be clear. guys, i want to start out by thinking the president for coming back to wild and wonderful west virginia for the sixth time. [cheers and applause] how about this guy? west virginia has never seen anything like this. we love you, mr. president. and i will tell you this. we know that president trump is making america great again but even more importantly, president trump is making west virginia great again. tonight we are joined by some of the mountain state's finest coal miners. can you stand up? a round of applause for our hardworking coal miners. [cheers and applause] donald trump and i are fighting every day for our coal miners and the hardworking men and women of our state. he's trying to get the man off of your back and i'm working every day to help him do it. amen. but i will tell you what, one of the best ways i can help president trump is to send you to the u.s. senate where i will be a big ally of this president. west virginia needs to send a conservative fighter to the u.s. senate to help during that swam swamp. now, -- [chanting: drain that swamp! now i have an opponent in that race, and his name is dishonest joe manchin. let me be clear, liberal joe is no supporter of this president. joe manchin strongly supported and voted for hillary clinton after -- hang on, hang on. after she said we are putting a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of work. he even called hilary warm, compassionate, engaging, and tough. can you actually believe that? joe has to go. liberal joe no longer has west virginia values. let's go through the record. joe manchin was for obama, hillary, radical gun control, planned parenthood. and he opposed the trump tax cuts. let me be clear -- that's pretty bad, right? remember, this is west virginia. we benefit as much or more than anyone from the trump tax cuts. [cheers and applause] joe manchin no longer has west virginia values, and when we get to the u.s. senate, i'm going to be a strong ally of president trump and i'm going to be a conservative fighter that i'm going to rely on. we are going to stand up for coal and are energy resources and we will tackle this opioid epidemic more aggressively than anyone. it's my honor to be there tonight and be on the same stage with the president. mr. president, thank you for your leadership, your work and for standing up for west virginia. [cheers and applause] together, we are all going to help this guy make sure that we not only make west virginia great again, but we continue to make west virginia great again. the best way to do that, liberal joe has got to go. joe has got to go. and now, i turn respect over to the big man who you are here to see. >> president trump: he's got energy and a lot of talent. he doesn't sleep. the last 60 days of my campaign, we go out every single day, as many stops as you could make, you could humanly make. he's not going to get tired, he's every single day. and he's got a very special spark, you see it and you know him. he's done a great job as your ag. you have to get him with us. he's going to bring it back home for the people of west virginia. so this november, the voters in west virginia will face a very simple choice. a vote for patrick morrissey is truly a vote to make america great again. and he's going to vote. [cheers and applause] i like joe, but joe doesn't vote, he just doesn't vote for us. it's a vote for schumer, nancy pelosi, their new leader, maxine waters. but between waters and pelosi, you have two people that are in charge of congress and they are not in favor of west virginia. they don't know that west virginia exists. they don't like coal, they don't like energy, and they don't like work. but when you cast your ballots in november, you are just voting for a candidate, you are voting for which party controls the house and which party controls the senate. all these congress people, and i will tell you, we have to get there. we really have to get there. we have all the secret service and they are fantastic people but it sort of hold you back. maybe sometimes i will make a few trips without them, but we will be out a lot. i'm coming back here before the election. [cheers and applause] and it's a very close election. a lot of people don't realize there is a six-point spread. six points could be ended by this evening, he could be up by 12, you see what's happening. without a good record of endorsements in georgia. he's down ten, i endorsed him shortly before the election. good man, and he won 70-30. i guess he picked up 45 or 50 points and in ohio recently he was up, then he went down a little bit, and he won. balderson, good man. we won 8 out of 9 special elections. nobody talks about it, 8 out of 9 special elections and they don't want to talk about i it. and my record, boy do i have a good record of endorsement. in florida we have a great candidate, and his name is ron desantis. he called me and asked whether or not i could endorse him. and i said, let me check it out. he was at three, i gave him a nice shot and a nice little tweet, being being. he went from like three, 220 something. i gave him my full and total endorsement and now he's leading like 19 points. and that election is next week, leading in the primary. he's a good man. and so many others. dan donovan before the election, we endorsed him. i think he won by 24 points. all my life i have heard endorsements don't mean anything. they said if you get an endorsement from ronald reagan, it was a wonderful thing to have but it didn't move the needle. and it never really -- it is not a correct statement? if you get an endorsement, it was nice to have bite it didn't mean anything. they are going 20, 30, 40, 50 points. 50 points, it's crazy. and then you watch the news, will this endorsement mean anything we have to get senators in, we really have no majority. if you looked at it, probably you could say 49, 49, 51, 49. we have some people that are not able to vote and we have some people that are a little unreliable, they don't exactly like what i've done to their career. they don't love what i've done and that's okay. i don't like what they have done either. but we need to elect five, six, or even seven more senators. and i think we can do it. we have to start with patrick morrissey. if you vote for joe manchin or any other democrat in november, you are voting for the party that wants to really destroy the coal industry. joe endorsed hillary 100%, and he got along with her even better after she came out with the statement that she wants to destroy coal and coal companies. and that's a bad thing. the democrats want to turn america into one big, fat sanctuary city for criminal aliens, and honestly, honestly they are more protective of aliens, the criminal aliens than they are of the people. they want to take away your second amendment. you see what's going on. i don't think you wanted your second amendment played with. they want to take over american courts. and that's a nightmare for west virginia, then chuck schumer are running the senate, and nancy pelosi with maxine waters. , i don't see the blue wave. thank want to keep the disaster known as obamacare, and i will tell you it's being chipped away. and they had it beaten. one man voted no, shockingly. and that's really surprising to a lot of people because he can't pay nor repeal and replace. but we really knocked it out, including the individual mandat mandate. that's the most unpopular part of obamacare, where you have a privilege of paying a fortune, without having to pay a fortune for really good health care. we got rid of that, a lot of people are really happy about that. it came along with my biggest tax cuts. and it joe manchin voted no on the tax cuts. i saw signs along the highway joe, you voted no for our president. he's going to vote no, i'm not knocking him. but chuck schumer is the boss and, everybody should, i mean here is a guy -- is the central casting? this is what we want. this is a great, brilliant man. but joe is not voting with us. he votes against the things that he wants and he votes against the people of west virginia. now the wall is coming along for over $3 billion, and it's moving along very nicely. very nicely. and if you think it's easy with these people, it's not easy. it's not easy. we are getting the wall built. it's going up, and we are getting a belt. it built so shelly and corey, you hear that, right? we have 3.2 billion, we are looking for 5 billion this year and, all of a sudden it's going to be finished and very, very effective. you heard about that today with the illegal alien coming in, very sadly from mexico, and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman. it should have never happened. illegally in our country. we have had a huge impact, but the laws are so bad, and the laws are such a disgrace but we are getting them changed. but we have to get more republicans. this election is bigger than any one race, it's about whether we want to continue the amazing progress we have made for america whether we want to surrender that progress to the forces of extremism, and obstruction. you know, the little phrase that they like, resist, that's what they are good at. they have no policies, and they are good at sticking together and resisting. i have almost 400 people that haven't been approved -- they are slow walking. we have almost 400 people in our administration, people that gave up our careers and they've been waiting over a year to get approved. it's never happened that way in the history of our country and it is a disgrace. it is a disgrace. the democrat party is held hostage by the so-called resistance disrespect our flag, denigrate our history, and despair is our great country and we are not going to let it happen. new york's democrat governor andrew cuomo even declared that america was never great. oh, i see, okay. tell that to our great soldiers from world war i and world war ii, the korean war and so many others. tell that to the folks that send a rocket up to the moon and are great astronauts. tell them to all the great medical research we've done in this country, he says america was never great. i would imagine that is career threatening. how did he get away with that one? did you hear? he was speaking to a room loaded up with socialists and probably others. probably others. not communists, but that could have been a couple of them as well. and he made the statement, and america was never great. and they go -- did you hear? they couldn't even believe it. that is job threatening. that's a combination of brave americans whose blood, sweat and tears built our magnificent country. so this november you can either vote for the party that says, america was never great -- that's going to be their theme now, america was never great. they copied mine, promises made, promises kept. let's give them a new theme. "america was never great." that's america's the democrats. or you can vote proudly for everything that we stand for. we are the greatest country in the world and we are now the greatest economy that we have ever had, we are the greatest economy in the world. we have gone up $10 trillion in value since my election. [cheers and applause] we have gone up $10 trillion, think of it, since the election. remember, i was here just before the election and i brought a couple of guys into a room, and i said, fellows, supposing we teach you a new skill? these are big strong coal miners. they say, sir, we want to dig coal. and i said, i agree. right? remember that? their grandfathers did it, their fathers did it, and it's really happening. and we are back, the coal industry is back. so when i came here originally, west virginia frankly was down and out. it was not doing exactly well. one of the last -- you know a few months ago it hit where west virginia, on a per capita basis, is one of the most successful gdp states in our union. so we went from being down and out, one of the most successful in the union, very close to the top. so many people were backstage and people are coming up to me, mr. president, thank you sir for saving our nation because you understand what that means. we couldn't do anything. had the other side one, they would have poured on more regulations and raise your taxes. they would have done things that were so bad, you had a very low gdp. it was 1.2%. that was going down, it was going to be a negative. last quarter, we just hit as you know, 4.1. i always said it, if i would have ever said that shortly after winning we will hit 4.1, most people back there would have said, this guy is no good, fake news. how fake are they? fake news on the russian witch hunt. we got a whole big combination. where is the collusion? they are still looking for collusion, where is the collusion? find some collusion. we want to find of the collusio collusion. at the beating heart of this election is border security. we have to have it. right? iowa -- we are having a lot of problems, people are coming in but we are getting them out. but we have ms-13 on the run. they poured in here with obama and we have them on the run, because we love the men and women of i.c.e. [cheers and applause] a blue wave in november means open borders which means massive crimes. a red wave means safety and strength, that's what it is. the new platform of the democrat party to abolish i.c.e., a vote for any democrat in november is about to eliminate immigration enforcement, throw open our orders and set lose vicious predators and violent criminals and they are all over our communities. they will be praying on our communities. yet many democrats are calling to abolish i.c.e., and it's a 14-year-old deportation order, the last known officer in the united states on the bed trying to get him out for decades. president obama tried, they all try to. we got him out, done. i.c.e. officers are heroes that uphold our laws, and they defend our communities like nobody you have ever seen. and yes, they are tough, they are strong, they are smart and they have great heart. they go into these communities loaded up with the kind of criminals that you don't want to be dealing with. they walk in like it's another day in the office. they are tougher, they are stronger, they are what these other people fear. and by the way, our i.c.e. folks and our border patrol folks, they have no fear. the job they do is incredible. and by the way, while we are at it, law enforcement. these are great, great people and they are doing an incredible job. every single day, i.c.e. is tracking down gang members, drug dealers, predators and killers and we are either throwing them in jail or throwing them out of our countr country. if you want to save i.c.e., you want to protect our border and our border patrol, and want to stop this craziness of sanctuary cities were criminals are protected, take a look at chicago. how about the mayor of chicago. it's like a war zone. this is what those policies do. last week, 62 people were shot, 12 died. this is like our country. there is no reason for this. the republican party stands proudly with our courageous i.c.e. officers and border patrol agents. and by the way, you know who wants the wall more than any of us? i.c.e. and border patrol and that's a big factor in stopping the drugs from coming in. human traffickers, which is worse, human traffickers. who would believe, and it's because of the internet, this election is about security and about jobs we have produced. thanks to republicans our economy is booming like it has another never boomed before. we've created another number that nobody would have believed if i had set it during the campaign. 4 million new jobs since the election. almost 3.9 million americans have been lifted off of food stamps, think of that. they don't need them because they have a job. they are eating better now. they don't need of food stamps. almost 4 million, think of it. last year in west virginia, per capita and income group, 40% faster than the national average. 40%, congratulations. i told you, last time i was here, you weren't so happy like you are now. we have added over 400,000 new manufacturing jobs nationwide. that number is soon going to exceeds 600,000 and our opponents said, there is no such thing as manufacturing jobs anymore, right? and i say, oh, i see. we are not going to make things any more? think of it, we will be close to 600,000 pretty soon. we have companies pouring into our country. these are companies that left and they are coming back to michigan. they are coming back to west virginia. they are coming back to pennsylvania and ohio. they are coming to florida. they are coming back, not just opening but, they are coming back. they want to be where the action is, and the action is in the united states of america. [cheers and applause] all the things we don't have. you want to build a car and send it to europe? how many chevrolets are there in the middle of berlin? not too many, may be one. so they are barriers and he said let's go, and i said, listen. i said this to numerous countries. it's all about the cars. tremendously big industry. we are going to put a 25% tax on every car that comes into the european union from the european union into the united states. that will take our loss and are trade deficit and will give us a surplus of $151 billion. that is a fairly dramatic switch and that will take one little

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>> tonight as we come on the air in the west, did breaking news, the mueller report is in and so are the first major headlines. the special counsel robert mueller sends his report to the attorney general after nearly two years. 37 indictments, six trump associates. the mueller report now turned in. the white house getting the call first. then congress alerted the report was done. carried by a security officer to the department of justice. tonight what we know already. the letter now from the attorney general william barr to congress, and early word coming in from the a.g. that his first summary could come as early as this weekend. jon karl and pierre thomas with new reporting. also tonight, president trump now responding. sources telling abc news the initial reaction, quote, glad it's over. also tonight, no new indictments from robert mueller. dan abrams standing by on what that means. and what's in the report itself? are there any clues yet? tonight reaction pouring in from capitol hill. demands the mueller report be made public, that the american people get to see it. but will that happen? mary bruce standing by live on the hill. also breaking this friday night, the chemical plant fire. worries about the air. and just tonight, the new fire erupting a short time ago. major news on boeing tonight and those new max jets grounded. after news many were missing crucial safety software that cost extra. tonight, the new headline. and the priest attacked during mass, the moment live streamed and what we know tonight. good evening. great to have you with us on a very busy friday night. we begin tonight with the mueller report, now turned in. robert mueller's work is over. his report carried by a security officer to the department of justice this afternoon. white house was called at 4:40 this afternoon and told it was done. then congress alerted the 22-month investigation was over. confirming, no new indictments. the attorney general could deliver his first summary of the mueller report by this weekend. as we have reported, the investigation launched 22 months ago, $25 million spent, 37 indictments including six of president trump's associates. national security adviser michael flynn, campaign chair paul manafort, deputy campaign manage rick gates, foreign policy adviser george papadopoulos, personal attorney and fixer michael cohen and along time frill operative roger stone. all but stone pleading guilty. tonight what's in the report remains a mystery at this hour. but let's get right to jonathan karl. do we have any indication if the president was given any clues as to what's in the report? >> reporter: at this point all indication are the report remains as much a mystery to the president as the rest of us. the president is telling his friends and aides he's glad it's over. tonight, after nearly two years, robert mueller's work is finally done. late today, a security officer hand delivered his final report to the department of justice and to attorney general bill barr. in a letter sent this evening, barr officially notifying congress, the special counsel has concluded his investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election and related matters. the contents of the report, and even the exact timing, have been a tightly guarded secret. this morning, even president trump was in the dark. >> mr president, do you expect the mueller report to be submitted today? >> i have no idea about the mueller report. >> reporter: tonight, barr informed congress, i am reviewing the report and anticipate that i may be in a position to advise you of the special counsel's principal conclusions as soon as this weekend. as abc news first reported yesterday, a senior department of justice official confirmed today, mueller is recommending no further indictments. ultimately, it will be up to barr to decide how much of the report is made public. at his confirmation hearing, democrats tried to nail him down. >> will you commit to making any report mueller produces at the conclusion of his investigation available to congress and to the public? >> as i said in my statement, i am going to make as much information available as i can consistent with the rules and regulations that are part of the special counsel regulations. >> will you commit to making any report on the obstruction of justice public? >> that's the same answer. >> reporter: tonight barr tells congress he is committed to as much transparency as possible. he pledged to consult with mueller, who he has known for decades to determine what other information from the report can be released to congress and the public. earlier this week, i asked the president whether he wants to full report released. does the american public have a right to see the mueller report? >> i don't mind. i mean, frankly, i told the house if you want, let them see it. let it come out. let people see it. that's up to the attorney general. we have a very good attorney general. he's a very highly respected man. and we'll see what happens. >> reporter: amidst the anticipation over mueller's last act, the president amped up his attacks on the special counsel, again and again calling the whole investigation a witch hunt. >> i have a deputy, appoints a man to write a report on me to make a determination of my presidency? people will not stand for it. >> so let's get back to jon karl. live tonight. jon, sources say the president's first response, glad it's over. even though we still don't know the contents of this report, there must be some relief for the president tonight and people in his inner circle with the news of there are no new indictments. >> reporter: no question about that, david. the president's legal team has put out a statement saying they're pleased the report has been issued, the investigation is over. sarah sanders, the press secretary, said the next steps regarding release will be up to bill barr. she said, david, that the president, the white house, they have not been briefed at all on the contents or conclusions of the report. at least not yet. >> jon karl leading us off. thank you. as we reported at the top the first summary from the attorney general could come as early as this weekend. let's get to abc's chief justice correspondent pierre thomas tonight. that was news as well, that we might see the summary so quickly. it's up to the attorney general william barr what to release how much to release and when. >> reporter: that's right david. bill barr is a veteran of washington. he's under incredible pressure. he knows he has to make some of mueller's conclusions known and quickly. tonight, with that new indication from the attorney general that his first summary of robert mueller's findings will be made by this weekend, it's clear robert mueller's work is over. no more indictments, but his findings, not yet revealed. >> mr. mueller, are you investigating the president? >> reporter: for 22 months, robert mueller has been a virtual ghost. letting his indictments and court filings speak for themselves. 34 people charged, 7 pleading guilty. >> where's paul? paul manafort. >> reporter: including the president's campaign chairman. >> mr. manafort, did you commit a crime? >> reporter: his deputy campaign manager. his first national security adviser. and his longtime personal attorney and fixer. >> mr. cohen has cooperated. >> reporter: mueller also zeroing in on the russians, indicting 26 people and unspooling an elaborate scheme to influence the 2016 election by hurting hillary clinton and helping donald trump. >> information warfare against the united states. >> reporter: but president trump seeming to side with putin over the american intelligence agencies. >> i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> reporter: trump attacking the investigation at every turn. >> the entire thing has been a witch hunt. they won't find any collusion. it doesn't exist. there was no collusion. there was no obstruction. there was no nothing. >> reporter: mueller also investigating whether the president repeatedly tried to obstruction the investigation. >> why don't i just fire mueller? well, i think it's a disgrace what's going on. many have said you should fire him. >> reporter: the special counsel's team interviewing dozens of witnesses, including around 30 current or former white house officials. president trump himself refusing to sit face to face with robert mueller. >> let's get back to pierre, live in washington tonight. one thing that was made very clear today is that no one stopped robert mueller. no one stood in his way, ever. when he wanted to investigate he was allowed to investigate. >> reporter: that's right, david. barr made clear that mueller was a complete professional. there was no lead he wanted to pursue where he was told no. >> that was really important, pierre. pierre thomas, thanks to you. let's get to dan abrams who has been following this. first off, no new indictments. crystal clear. some are going to wonder does that include any sealed indictments left to be opened? >> i think no new indictments means no new indictments. i don't think it's a semantics game. >> what about the other investigations elsewhere that are already reported on. >> those will continue in new york and washington, d.c. what's different now is that those people report to william barr, the attorney general. they don't have the same level of independence that the special counsel had, even though he was also reporting to the attorney general. so i think that those investigations are going to continue, but they're a little bit different than the special counsel. >> you made the point that the biggest mystery inside the mueller report -- we don't know what's in the report -- is why there wasn't an indictment of the president. whether that's because of justice department guidelines or whether there was simply no evidence here. >> and the special counsel regulations say he's required to tell the attorney general why he didn't seek certain prosecutions. so the question's going to be -- everyone wants to know was the president not indicted because there's simply no evidence of collusion, conspiracy with the russians? or was there no indictment because he's the president and the president can't be indicted? and that applies both to the collusion question, obstruction of justice, all of it. >> we could know that very soon. >> if the details of the report are made public. >> dan abrams tonight. thanks so much. i want to get right to capitol hill. reaction is pouring in from the house and the senate at this hour. of course it was just last week the house voting overwhelmingly, republicans and democrats, to make the report public. let's get to mary bruce. she's up on the hill monitoring this. we have the letter from the attorney general sent to congress this afternoon. the special counsel submitted to me a confidential report. that's key. confidential. it's his decision how much the american public will see. >> reporter: david, barr has promised lawmakers he'll be as transparent as possible, but based on what we are hearing from democrats they won't be satisfied until they see the whole mueller report, any underlying evidence. just barr's summary isn't going to suffice. democrats will use every tool available to get this information. that means brace yourself for more subpoenas. it means we could see mueller and barr testifying here on the hill, and it means we could see a long court battle. remember republicans and democrats are saying after tens of millions of taxpayer money was spent on the investigation that the american public deserves to see some version of this report. david, democrats are bracing for this to be a long fight for them to get the information they want, and in the meantime they are not holding back. they are plowing ahead. they're ramping up scores of their own investigations into this administration. while mueller's work may be wrapping up, the hill is just getting started. >> mary bruce making it clear the next chapter is how much of the report the american public will see. our thanks to mary, dan, jon karl tonight and to pierre for leading us off. we'll have continuing coverage on "nightline" and on "good morning america" and on world news. we move to the fire in texas flairing up today and questions about the air. at least two tanks are now on fire. a new plume of black smoke pouring into the sky. the fire burning on and off for days. residents worried about the air quality. abc's alex perez right back on the scene tonight. >> reporter: those towering plumes of smoke filling the air near houston once again. >> it appears as though that the product that has leaked out of the itc plant is now in the ditch and that too is on fire. >> reporter: fire officials say at least two tanks, filled with components used to make gasoline, nail polish glg. >> we will make this right. we will fix it and we will make it right. >> reporter: it was just yesterday when a spokeswoman for the company made that tearful apology after an earlier fire at the same chemical plant that lasted for days was finally put out. earlier today officials at the facility announced they were working to empty an estimated 20,000 barrels of liquid from a charred tank that leaked the potential cancer causing substance benzene. the national guard assisting. schools in the area have been closed out of an abundance of caution after the toxin was detected in the air. many nearby residents worried all week. tonight anxious with that smoke back in the air. david, because of all this the coast guard has shut down temporarily the channel that connects the port of houston and the gulf of mexico. that's a busy shipping channel. some encouraging news -- officials say they already have the new flare-up under control. david? >> alex perez tonight. thanks for your reporting. now to the weather. damaging winds expected in the northeast. the states of emergency in the midwest. deadly flooding across several states tonight. rain falling through the weekend. several towns ordering mandatary emergency evacuations tonight \after a levee breach in kansas. tornado warnings in texas and the gusty winds and very cold temperatures hitting the northeast. rob marciano tracking it for us this evening. hey, rob. >> reporter: hi, david. winds cranking here. concerned about the storm plowing into the plains over the flood zone. there's that tornado watch that's posted for parts of north texas. this low is swirling around the rain and the snow tonight. winds cranking all day long tomorrow from d.c. to philly to boston, gusting 30 to 40 miles an hour. windchills in the teens and 20s to start your saturday. david. >> rob marciano, we'll be watching you all weekend long. to major news on boeing and those new max jets that have been grounded after news many were missing important safety features that boeing charges extra for. tonight indonesia's state-owned airline says it wants to cancel its $5 billion order for 50 new jets claiming passengers don't trust boeing anymore. here's abc's david kerley. >> reporter: just days after learning the pilot of the doomed lion air jet from indonesia was flipping through his emergency check list before the crashing, tonight word that that country's state-owned airline wants to cancel its 737 max order. garuda air appears to be trying to negotiate to avoid a cancelation penalty on the $5 billion deal. meanwhile, abc news has learned boeing's software update is expected to be certified by the faa early next week. in the first max crash, an improperly installed sensor provided bad data. the one sensor triggering the jet's nose down movement 21 times. boeing's fix? rely on both sensors, initiate a dive only once, and the angle of that dive will be less. >> you need a system that provides additional protections, provides additional information so that these two accidents don't happen again. >> reporter: it's now been five full days since the ethiopians received the data from the black boxes from the second max crash, but still no indication of the cause. >> in 2010 the ethiopians tried to manipulate the mishap data from a 737 crash. there's a real fear here that they're going to try and do that again with this mishap. >> we've learned that boeing has invited airlines to its seattle area plant this weekend to talk about this software update and training and that american airline pilots will be in the simulator to test the software update. david? >> david kerley with us all week long as well. thank you, david. there is news about your money your 401(k). your money, a deep do i have on wall street today. the dow jones plunging closing at 25,502. that's the worst day of trading since january. let's go live to erielle reshef on wall street. there was a key area that caused alarm today. >> reporter: that's right, david. stocks plunged among new signs of a slowing global economy and a new worry of a looming recession here at home. here's that key indicator. right here the so called yield curve turning negative for the first time since 2007 right before the great recession. sometimes when this happens, it can indicate another recession may be coming, but not always. this comes just days after the fed chairman announced it was unlikely we would see more rate hikes later this year. another sign of a slowing economy. david? 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>> we appreciate your time. thanks for joining us. tonight, the deadly blast rocking an american city. the massive explosion, a building leveled. you could feel the blast across the city, witnesses said. at least one dead, several injured, raced from the scene. firefighters had been called to the area right before the explosion. also at this hour, the major snowstorm slamming several states right now. up to two feet of snow, dangerous winds, 1,000 flights grounded or delayed. 100 miles of a key interstate shut down tonight. rob marciano has the track and the timing as we head into this evening. attorney general william barr on the hill, pressed on how he could determine there was no obstruction of justice when robert mueller did not. and what he said about spying on the trump campaign. the horrific and deadly bus crash today. the truck barrelling through an intersection, slamming right into a school bus. that deadly police standoff, officers called to this home, both officers shot. and tonight, we have now learned what they thought they were responding to. the beloved high school principal who died after donating bone marrow to a boy. how does this happen? your money tonight. gas prices on the rise. and where it's already topping $4. and tonight, the new report. the best day to buy gas and the worst. one of the great mysteries tonight. astronomers now revealing the first image of a black hole. and a nation riveted. he was one of the most famous tv contestants, watched by millions. back in the news tonight. good evening. and it's great to have you with us here on a wednesday night. and we are tracking that major blizzard on the move tonight. 20 states, 1,000 flights affected. but we do begin tonight with that horrific scene in durham, north carolina, a massive explosion. it happened after a call about a gas leak near downtown, a downtown building, in fact. firefighters answering the call. they were trying to evacuate people when the massive explosion then happened. fire, smoke and the scene of devastation tonight. firefighters then battling the flames and looking for the injured, rushing them to get them help. tonight, we know at least one person is dead, several others critically injured, and abc's chief national affairs correspondent tom llamas is on the scene for you, and we warn you, the images are difficult. >> reporter: tonight, that deadly gas explosion rocking downtown durham. people running from the blast, covered in blood, as firefighters ran in, facing off with a giant fireball and smoke that could be seen for miles. emergency crews now digging through this mountain of rubble, making sure no one is still trapped. >> we just heard a loud explosion, like, boom. >> reporter: city officials say at 9:38 this morning, the fire department was on site, responding to reports of a gas leak, likely from a construction crew in the area that hit a natural gas line. then at 10:07, as evacuations were underway, that massive blast. >> the whole building shook. it was, like, intense. i felt it through my whole body. >> reporter: watch as this nearby bridge cam captured the impact and sound of the blast. the explosion killing at least one person, 17 others rushed to the hospital, six in critical condition tonight. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: the destruction seen from every angle. this is our first up-close look at some of the destruction. and everywhere you look, there are bricks and glass everywhere. you can see how powerful the blast was. five buildings were effected. across the street, all the windows blown out. in the building just next door, you can see the windows are gone, as well, and the roof has caved in. >> all you see is a cloud of smoke go up, and then you see the building just slowly crumble down. >> reporter: students at a nearby school were forced to evacuate. several businesses damaged or destroyed, including one housing a world class vintage porsche collection. the cars, like this stretch of downtown durham, ravaged. >> just a stunning scene tonight. tom llamas is live on the scene for us, and tom, i know you're hearing from officials tonight that search and rescue teams could actually be on the scene for days there? >> reporter: that's right, david. and actually right now, they're using both video and listening devices, because there's a mound of rubble, they want to make sure they don't miss anything. they're also going to have to tunnel under that debris. now david, we've covered a lot of home explosions, gas explosions here on "world news tonight," but i've never seen anything quite like this. the brick building exploded, sending bricks as big as this shooting out nearly 100 yards. one eye witness, david, told me it sounded like an earthquake. >> just incredible. tom llamas, our thanks to you for getting right to the scene there for us today. in the meantime, we turn next tonight to the other major headline unfolding right now. that major blizzard on the move at this hour. 20 states, a potentially historic storm. more than 1,000 flights canceled or delayed. in fact, more than 800 flights in denver alone. you can see snow and whiteout conditions. in fact, these images are from watertown, south dakota, tonight. interstate 29 there shut down for 100 miles. at this hour, the storm is gaining strength. conditions worsening as it heads east. we have the track tonight, as we head into the night, and abc's clayton sandell is in the storm zone for us. >> reporter: tonight, spring might be on the calendar, but a powerful blizzard is bringing winter back to millions. in south dakota, cars off the road. winds above 50 miles an hour creating whiteout conditions. a highway patrol shutting down more than 100 miles of interstate 29. the system even bringing thundersnow. on interstate 90 in billings, montana, watch as an suv driving too fast nearly slams into a roadside assistance vehicle. at denver's airport, a major hub, more than 850 flights delayed or canceled. colorado's governor activating the national guard in case drivers get stranded. to the south, the leading edge of the cold front spawning this gustnado near pueblo. and in the west, winds gusting above 45 miles an hour fanning a fast-moving brush fire in palm springs, california, tuesday evening, prompting evacuations. downing trees and power lines in l.a. county. and in southeast washington state, streets submerged in pullman. firefighters using a front-end loader to rescue a man trapped after a rain-soaked creek jumped its banks. >> clayton sandell with us live tonight from interstate 25, a white denver there behind you. and clayton, i know traffic is moving right now, but authorities are concerned this is getting worse as we head into the night and they're nervous about drivers headed out? >> reporter: that's right, david. officials here say they are taking no chances. they're already starting to shut down some major interstates here before conditions get so bad that they might be stranded in their cars. you'll remember last time, some people were trapped in their vehicles for more than 24 hours. david? >> yes, we remember it well. clayton sandell, our thanks to you. rob marciano would be the first to tell you that this is not all that uncommon in april, snowstorms, but this one could be historic. >> reporter: and it's really strong, david. also, it's moving really slowly. some of these blizzard warnings are going to be up for 36 hours, and a huge wind field with this. as far south as texas, could see winds of 50 miles an hour. denver getting the worst of it tonight, as the low bottoms out in through kansas. strong thunderstorms between chicago and st. louis tomorrow, in the warm sector. the cold sector, blizzard conditions, one to two inch snowfall rates an hour. look how slowly it moves, though. thursday night into friday morning, still snowing in st. cloud friday morning. and as far as snow totals go, one to two feet of snow for nebraska through minnesota. it doesn't feel like april, david. >> all right, we're thinking of everyone in the storm zone tonight. rob, thank you. now, to the major headline involving the president's attorney general tonight. what william barr said today on capitol hill about spying on the trump campaign. he said spying did occur, in fact, and he revealed he will set up a team to investigate. but democrats today wanted to know something else. how barr determined that there was no obstruction of justice when robert mueller declined to answer that question. mary bruce on the hill for it all. >> reporter: on capitol hill today, a startling declaration from the attorney general, bill barr, saying the u.s. government spied on the trump campaign. >> i think spying on a political campaign is a big deal. >> so you're not -- you're not suggesting, though, that spying occurred? >> i don't -- well, i guess you could -- i think spying did occur. yes, i think spying did occur. >> reporter: he appears to be talking about the fbi's 2016 surveillance effort to determine whether any trump associates were involved with the russians. the big question, barr says, was it warranted? today, he acknowledged he's seen no specific evidence of wrongdoing. but he's putting together a team to find out for sure. >> i am not saying that improper surveillance occurred. i'm saying that i am concerned about it and looking into it. >> reporter: the president has been demanding this, an investigation into the russia investigation. >> and this was an attempted coup. this was an attempted takedown of a president and we beat them. we beat them. >> reporter: democrats today alarmed by barr's announcement, questioning his independence. you think he's doing the bidding of the president here? >> yes, i'm sure this is exactly what the president wanted him to say. >> reporter: they're also frustrated that, for now, the attorney general won't discuss how he reached his own conclusion that the president did not obstruct justice, even though special counsel robert mueller did not make a determination. >> mr. attorney general, the thing is, you put this out there. i mean, the president went out and tweeted the next day that he was exonerated. that wasn't based on anything in the mueller report with respect to obstruction of justice. that was based on your assessment. >> all right, so, this was day two. mary bruce was there for it all. and mary, there is also news tonight on the president's tax returns. today was the deadline, house democrats had demanded six years worth of returns. they gave the irs until today to respond. no tax returns. and here's what the president said today. >> i would love to give them, but i'm not going to do it while i'm under audit. it's very simple. remember, i got elected last time, the same exact issue, with the same intensity, which wasn't very much, because frankly, the people don't care. >> mary, the president quite clear there, he said americans don't care, last time, he got elected. he said he's still under audit, so, what now? >> reporter: well, david, democrats are not giving up, but they are being methodical about this. they are not going to rush to subpoena. instead, they're going to double down on this request. they seem to be playing the long game here, laying the groundwork in case they need to fight this in court. david? >> mary bruce with us again tonight. thank you, mary. we turn now to the deadly bus crash today. the truck barrelling through an intersection and right into a school bus and other vehicles. dash cam video tonight showing the collision. you see the school bus right there, and then that truck comes right into the intersection, slamming into several vehicles, in fact. it happened in clinton, maryland. the driver of a car was killed, trapped between the bus and the truck. several others hurt, including students. abc's david kerley covers transportation. >> reporter: it's a bus carrying high schoolers around 6:00 in the morning, when out of nowhere, a semitruck plows into that bus. and it's difficult to see, but between the bus and the truck is a car that is squeezed, crushed between the two larger vehicles. the female driver in that car was killed. two students, the bus driver and three others were taken to the hospital with non-life threatening injuries. >> i do want to confirm that the students on that bus, and the driver, are okay. >> reporter: police would not confirm what the video appears to show. that the tractor trailer runs through a red light at the intersection, trying to turn, but barrelling into that car as it overturns and then into the bus. the ntsb does not plan to investigate this accident. but the federal government does tell us that on average, there are ten deadly school bus crashes every year on our roads. david? >> david kerley with us tonight. david, thank you. next, to new reporting tonight on that deadly police standoff. we have reported on the body cam here before. those two officers called to a home in suburban atlanta. the officers running up to that home, then coming under fire when they got to the front door. both were shot, both survived. and tonight, right here, we hear from them. we have now learned what they thought they were responding to. here's abc's steve osunsami. >> ah! >> reporter: the two surburban atlanta police officers seen in this body camera video suffering gunshot wounds during a routine police call are telling our station in atlanta tonight that they thought they were responding to a woman in labor, but the pregnant woman was already dead. >> as soon as i kicked in the door, about two seconds later, the guy started putting rounds on me. >> shots fired, shots fired. >> reporter: inside the house, 47-year-old anthony bailey was promising to shoot them dead, too, if they didn't leave. >> do not come in here. i got a lot of shots. >> reporter: officer keegan merritt, seen here, was shot in the hand. >> it stunned me, but i knew that he could see me and i couldn't see him and i was in a bad spot. >> reporter: officer taylor webb was shot in the chest and the hip, and was hiding in the garage before he was set free. after a 17-hour standoff, no one inside the home survived, including the gunman, who police say killed himself. >> the worst thing that happened over the entire incident is that civilians lost their lives. >> reporter: the officers tonight say they're glad that they were the ones who showed up first and not firefighters. david? >> all right, steve, thank you. and now, to the anger boiling on capitol hill today, aimed squarely at the pharmaceutical companies hiking prices over something many americans need, insulin. the house energy and commerce committee grilling representatives from three of the nation's biggest pharmaceutical companies over skyrocketing prices. >> i don't know how you people sleep at night. i just want you to know, your days are numbered. >> the executives answering that the prices are high partly because they say they need to spend more money to research better drugs. we turn to an alarming headline tonight about a beloved high school principal who underwent surgery to donate bone marrow to a stranger. a little boy in need of help. that principal then suffering complications and dying. here's abc's linsey davis. >> reporter: one final act of kindness is being remembered tonight, as this new jersey high school grieves the loss of their principal. dr. derrick nelson, just 44 years old, died unexpectedly over the weekend after recently donating bone marrow. >> even if you never even spoke a word with him, his impact was felt the moment you walked in as a freshman. >> reporter: according to the westfield high school newspaper, nelson was contacted by a bone marrow program, telling him he was a match for a 14-year-old boy in france. nelson reportedly telling the paper at the time, "if it's just a little bit of pain for a little bit of time that can give someone years of joy, it's all worth it." his fiance telling abc news that he suffered complications after his donation, saying, "his last kind and generous act on this earth, in giving so someone else might live, is a true testament to who he was." and david, doctors stress that complications from bone marrow donations are extremely rare. nelson is survived by his 6-year-old daughter. david? >> all right, linsey davis tonight. thank you, linsey. and tonight, the pentagon has now released the names of the three u.s. marines killed in afghanistan. they are corporal robert hendriks from new york, sergeant benjamin hines from york, pennsylvania, and staff sergeant christopher slutman, the new york city firefighter who we reported on last night here. their convoy was hit by a roadside bomb on monday near bagram air force base. the taliban is claiming responsibility. there is still much more ahead on "world news tonight" this wednesday. one of the most famous tv contestants, this nation riveted, watched by millions, tonight, we remember him and the story behind him. also, the missing american couple disappearing on vacation in the dominican republic. what authorities today revealed about the couple from near new york city. the warning tonight about distracted drivers. the frightening moment right here on the highway when a speeding driver slams into the back of that truck because they were distracted. and your money tonight. gas prices on the rise. where it's already topping $4. and tonight right here, that new report, the best day to buy gas and, apparently, the worst day. a lot more news ahead. ♪ to inspire confidence through style. ♪ i'm working to make connections of a different kind. ♪ i'm working for beauty that begins with nature. ♪ to treat every car like i treat mine. ♪ at adp we're designing a better way to work, so you can achieve what you're working for. ♪ safe drivers shouldnt have to pay as much for insurance... as not safe drivers! that's why esurance has drivesense.® the safer you drive, the more you save. although i'm not really driving right now that would be unsafe. when insurance is affordable, it's surprisingly painless. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? 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