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Training for this, and it is not like got training and woke up and said this is how do you this. can you give us some insight for speaking to the people in the village and running the counter-offensive how you think that they just have figured out how to push back against these what you would suspect are these better-armed and maybe better-organized forces from russia? >> well, you know, from the very outset, the whole strategy of ukraine was to basically, it was a defensive tactic. their whole ...