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Pay our military act that congress did pass at the last moment before the shutdown and the president signed, that should pay for this. but he says because of careless interpretation, nobody is getting a benefit. >> brian: plus on top of that, the families have to pay for their own travel to dover and let alone not having the money to bury those who lost their lives in battle coming back from afghanistan or wherever else this happened. so today the house is going to put in a resolution together. ...

Beyond the rhetoric from both the white house and speaker boehner today and i think were actually inching closer to some kind of compromise. it seems like both sides want to get through next week, continue to ratchet up the rhetoric, but ultimately they may have a short-term debt limit extension and this may enable future budget talks. >> do you think the debt limit ex-tense would come hand in hand with a short-term er? essentially a month or so of time bought in which the government could be up...

Themselves. china and japan, the landlord is calling. they want to make sure that americas not going to default on its debt. france is saying americas beginning to look like italy. >> i saw that column, yes. >> and where do house republicans go for this? because theres so much distrust, would they trust obama to -- would they trust the president to negotiate without a threat like this? >> well, i think they can work with it. they should be able to work within this frame and do it in a way -- you...

I know the number. but this is lower, but the president has accepted lower than what the original ryan budget. now, the president did that. a bipartisan debate in the senate, they came to the conclusion that, okay, based on an agreement with the speaker and with harry reid that said remove the die funding of obama care, bipartisan, democratic president has agreed to that. the republicans didnt agree to that. >> why dont we -- >> thats why your founding fathers wanted. >> let me ask a question. b...

Down. it is entirely within the power of the speaker of the house and republicans in the house to reverse that by allowing a vote on a clean cr to reopen the government and we hope they will. the consequences of the shutdown are many and they are compounding. various economists have noted the impact of a prolonged shutdown on gdp growth and the specific impacts, including the ones i just mentioned continue. and the consequences of, you know, real and resonate for millions of americans. when it c...

Are we spending that money. >> okay. do a deal. i want you two -- you two live up to your promise. i want to see a deal done. what is a deal between a sensible republican and a sensible democrat, where is the point where you think this could be honorably settled? ill throw it out. i think we can both agree we havent -- it doesnt make sense to pass a cr with this -- with the arbitrary across the board spending cuts included in the sequester, that we need more targeted spending cuts and more preci...

For them to now say we werent saying, you know, we werent for, obama care, they also spent what was it, $5 million in direct advertising against obama care? this goes to something that i hold responsible folks like the koch brothers, like any of the large donors to the republican party, any of the rational people in the republican party. this summer, when ted cruz was out there with heritage doing these rallies, trying to whip up the base and whip up the frenzy around defunding obama care and ty...

Together this personal dig against the house speaker. >> there are not the votes in the house to pass a clean c.r. >> are you chicken? >> youre soft. >> youve always been gutless. >> if republicans and speaker boehner are saying there are not enough votes then they should prove it. >> whats the matter, colonel sanders? chicken? >> damn right youre scared. >> hard to watch the great rick moranis be used as a political pawn like that. senator ron johnson, wasnt to turn back to you. >> those democr...

Shouldnt we go back to the clean cr they proposal agreed to? thats where the white house is. bohner has a tough path here. walter made the good point in paul ryans op-ed, obama care wasnt mentioned. you know who else made that point? ted cruzs communication, on twitter this morning. even if they go towards this paul roin path. >> wait, tell us what is communication -- >> they said there is a word missing from paul ryans op-ed. it begins with the letter o and ends with bama care. >> a rhino. clea...

Heres to add one other thing to this. the idea that we dont use a debt ceiling or a crisis to get things done is simply absurd. unfortunately on both sides of the aisle there is not the political courage to do the tough things like deal with entitlements. anyone that disagrees with that doesnt know our history. anytime weve got something of substance done has been in a crisis. >> let me ask you, though. what i dont understand strategically, why shouldnt the republicans allow a c.r., clean c.r. t...