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Senate in the position of doing is whether or not theyre willing to shutdown the government over an end of subsidies to their aides who effectively wrote this bill, and i dont think that that would go over very well with the american people, and i think that thats the republican gambit here. >> chris, that throws the tennis ball over to the senate democrats. what do they do? >> im not sure it really does. right now if you look at both the politics and the message dynamics of all this, the republ...

Deflect blame in some ways and point blame in others. the defect blame is military provision you just mentioned saying that, you know, we wouldnt be guilty of stopping the funding for our troops if a shutdown occurred. the point in the blame is that if you hear republicans talk theyre saying that senator harry reid would be to blame if he again strips these obama care provisions from the cr and sends them back. they do have one point in the sense of the pedicle device tax. a majority of democr...

I think we did four panda jokes. >> we did it. now were done. >> heres the facts. theres a lot of talk about how john boehner needs the republican caucus and he has to satisfy the tea party. thats not literally true in terms of the house vote. all he needs is 17 republicans to come along for a bipartisan funding bill. what is that funding bill? well, its a continuing resolution, thats why they call it a cr, which means its not actually an annual budget, it wont actually solve these problems. its...

Mcconnell is interested in making any deals. hes already come under a lot of fire from the conservatives in his home state and the national conservatives who are advertising in his re-election race trying to bump him off in his primary. so without him helping -- stepping in to make that deal, i dont think for a lot of the reasons that were cited in manus story we really have people who have either the credibility or just the ability to make the kind of deal it would take. >> we will be watching....

Pass a short term cr. >> as you mentioned earlier today, there are some, some of the senior republicans that think it may be a good thing. it would teach the younger members, the freshmen and tea partiers a lesson. the commentary you are seeing from the tea party members is they think it is great. they are excited. they are cheering this. part of this split within the republican party is even over whether or not this is a good thing or a bad thing. james peterson, let me bring you in as well on ...

Its why the american public is so frustrated. i just returned from any district and people say, cant you all work this out? and i tell them, yes, there is a faction that wants to govern, but unfortunately theres a far right tea party extremist group that doesnt. >> congressman, thank you sir. >> thank you. >> as expected senate democrats none too happy with todays action in the lower chamber. harry reid call the republicans plan quote pointless. he said in a statement this afternoon, to be absol...

And secondly, in case of a shutdown, it would at least fund the military. this is the first time they have the countenance to recognize the possibility of a shutdown, but that will be on the floor to be debated. the senate majority leader harry reid made it clear it would not fly. saying to be absolutely clear the senate will delay both the delay of the affordable care act, we are still at square one, this from harry reid, republicans must decide whether to pass the cr, the continuing resolution...

>> if the u.s. government default, we will get the disease, but if the republican tea party caucus wins the day and manages to bring about a shutdown, the american people will be inoculated. the public will get to see the consequences of gop obstruction and possibly, just maybe, the house gop will get to see just how unpopular they really are. joining me with the latest, robert costa, washington, d.c. editor for the conservative national review and the best source man in all of washington, okay,...

What were doing, except for to give the right wing an exercise? the bottom line is that speaker boehner has not taken control of his caucus and hes allowed the 40 to r50 extremists to rule the day. and i think its just a shame. >> congresswoman, talk to me a little bit about the mood right now on the hill. are you guys -- are you talking to each other? are democrats and republicans even engaging in the old-fashioned art of conversation right now? >> we see each other on the floor when we vote. b...

Other so-called adults would be involved in make sure there isnt a government shutdown. what are you hearing? >> reporter: that nothing is going on behind the scenes in terms of heres plan d if this whole thing explodes and the clock is about to strike midnight, heres what were going to do. i hear nothing about cross-party negotiations to avert this. so i will say i have seen in the past that congress will pass a one-day c.r. or a two-day c.r., that kind of thing. so thats still possible. but at...