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Shutdown in just about 13 hours. >> i remain hopeful. were preparing for the worst, but i do believe that at the end of the day were going to do the right thing. you laid out a couple of very important pieces. even if we go with just a very short-term cr, a week, or whether we do go forward with a clean three-month cr, the real issue here is working on a debt limit. thats the goal. theres more that we can negotiate there. i know the president has said hes not going to negotiate with us, but that...

Suspect it would not be successful. i voted to repeal, delay, defund obama care. i have all sorts of problems with the law. i realize its not going to be changed between now and the end of the day. its imperative to get on with the business of governing. there are probably 190 members of the house republican conference who have a very sense of governance. we have a few dozen who dont have that same sense of governance. we have to get on with the business, pass a bipartisan bill and keep the gove...

Saying hes not going to negotiate when it comes to his health care law as any kind of leverage for raising the debt ceiling. one other thing we want to point out in just the last few minutes, brooke, and that is during the press briefing before i walked out here to talk to you, jay carney was asked repeatedly about one other proposal floating around on capitol hill. thats for a one-week very short-term continuing resolution. something that would keep the government running for about a week or so...

Does the house do with that? at this point well wait and so? they could put other provisions and send a short term cr that would fund the government for a short period of time until a bigger negotiation going forward. >> it doesnt sound like you are optimistic that something will happen before midnight. is the government shutting down? >> we are doing everything to prevent it. and thats why the house acted and we are waiting for the senate to come back and the democrats in the senate and preside...

I hope john boehner makes a good decision, one thats good for the country. job protection time is over with. its time to start protecting the american people. >> i want to bring in our chief congressional correspondent who has been in the weeds in all of this. we keep hearing this talk about a clean cr, a clean resolution, but thats whats heading back to the house. youre getting intel because you know there are closed-door meetings happening among republicans. the question is will they be willin...

The country who are uninsured. this is an opportunity to change what sort of has been a black mark on our country and society that we can allow that to go forward. >> one last kind of bottom line point, congressman, since you will have a vote on this. at some point there will be a resolution of the government shutdown, before or after, even given your views about how bad obama care is, do you think it is worse not voting to increase the debt limit over this fight? >> not over the obama care, i a...

Sequester level funding in the cr. thats what they wanted. thats not what democrats want. they should declare victory and move on. >> can i put on my liberal hat and answer newts question? >> im dying to see this. >> tell me if im right or wrong. obama knows that obama care is in a troubling spot. weve seen the headlines, seen the premium increases, seen the states that insurers pull out of various states. he knows that something is wrong, but he cannot accept any demands by republicans because ...

Access and health care premium payments. if you do that, the thinking on the republican side is they can say, look, harry reid is trying to save his own health care ahead of that of the american people. so thats the one thing we can see. however, if you do that, you push more towards shutdown because of the timing and how everything works up here. number two, boehner could possibly have a two-or three-week continuing resolution, not all the way to december which would mix this into the debt limi...

The far right wing of the party? >> its really going to depend on how long the shutdown lasts, i think. if we are here in another week and theres a shutdown, its a real problem. one of the real concerns, because weve talked about some of the changes around the edges, but for women who are receiving women and infants who are receiving food stamps, those cards cant be recharged in a week on the 15th if the government doesnt come back in. so as you -- the longer you have a delay, the more problems ...

Nitty-gritty of legislating, thats going to be left to harry reid, senate democrats and even house democrats to potentially give boehner some votes if it comes down to it. i mean, i think what youre seeing here is an effort by the white house to -- not -- to let that process play out. let their allies on the hill keep and dig in that firm line. because there is a fear if you start to negotiate, you may cut a deal you dont like at the end of the day. >> yet, molly, we expect that as weve been tal...